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From: Shaun Watts <swatts@computer-systems.com>
To: Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
To: Chris Travers <chris@travelamericas.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) <postgresql4@ultimeth.com>
Cc: pgsql-sql <pgsql-sql@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Blank-padding
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:04:39 -0500
Message-ID: <457C5811B5F0244B9CB13119E027F764040C05@CSISERV1.CSIIndy.local> (raw)


I also have an issue with the blank padding at the end of my fields.
Is there any way to eliminate the blank padding at the end of character
fields in a table.

Such as you have field X as a char(6), but storing "abc" in it.  Well
postgres seems to add the padding on the end of string that is being
stored.
So it is stored as "abc   " instead of "abc".  I don't want that padding
there.

I am fairly new to Postgres and have only dealt with Informix database
systems,
which don't store data this way.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Shaun


Shaun Watts
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-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Scott Marlowe
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:46 AM
To: Chris Travers
Cc: Tom Lane; Dean Gibson (DB Administrator); pgsql-sql
Subject: Re: [SQL] Blank-padding

On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 00:39, Chris Travers wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> >"Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql4@ultimeth.com> writes:
> >  
> >
> >>I remember that discussion, and I was for the change.  However, upon

> >>doing some testing after reading the above, I wonder if the 
> >>blank-stripping isn't too aggressive.  I have a CHAR(6) field (say,
> >>named Z) that has "abc   " in it.  Suppose I want to append "x" to
Z, 
> >>with any leading spaces in Z PRESERVED.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >(You meant trailing spaces, I assume.)  Why exactly would you want to

> >do that?  You decided by your choice of datatype that the trailing 
> >spaces weren't significant.
> >
> I once built a telecom billing app where this might be important 
> (fixed length fields).  Lets say you have fixed length fields defined 
> as
> char(n) datatypes.  You may want to build a query to generate billing 
> records like:
> select field1 || field2 || field3 || field4 || field5 ... AS 
> bill_record FROM lec_billing_entries;
> 
> It seels to me that I would expect trailing spaces to be preserved in 
> these cases.  Having an implicit rtrim function is asking for
problems.
> Personally I would rather have to call rtrim explicitly than have the 
> backend treat the concatenation differently than if I do it on the
client.

If I rememberate correctificantly, this problem is or was caused by the
|| operator using the same internal logic for varchar / text AND char. 
Tom, is it reasonable / doable to have || have a different set of
internal functions for each of those types.

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