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From: Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Sorting Issue
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:56:56 -0600
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Samuel Gendler
<sgendler@ideasculptor.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>
>> "Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
>> > Isn't this the English standard for collation?  Or is this a non-c
>> > locale as mentioned below?  Is there anyway around this?
>>
>> >        LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
>>
>> en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
>> I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass.  You might be
>> happier using "C" collation.  Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
>> your database (as of existing PG releases).
>
>
> ugh. So what's the initdb incantation necessary to sort the way I'd expect
> an alphabetic sort to happen?  I'm literally just in the process of bringing
> up a new project, so it's a perfect opportunity for me to get this set up
> correctly to begin with.  THe default on my system was definitely
> en_US.utf8.

initdb --locale=C



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