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* Sorting Issue
@ 2011-05-09 16:25 Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-09 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
I have the following query
Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
Results:
532;"CX Hatchback"
536;"CXL Minivan"
3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
537;"CXL Sedan"
538;"CXL Sport Utility"
3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
533;"CX Minivan"
1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
534;"CX Sedan"
535;"CX Sport Utility"
539;"CXS Sedan"
Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
CXL, Then CXS
Here is the table definition:
CREATE TABLE vehicletrimabbreviated
(
vehicletrimabbreviatedid integer NOT NULL,
vehicletrimabbreviated character varying(64),
vehiclesubmodelid integer,
vehiclebodystyleid smallint,
vehiclebodystylegroupid smallint
)
WITH (
OIDS=FALSE
);
ALTER TABLE vehicletrimabbreviated OWNER TO app_user;
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i00
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i00;
CREATE UNIQUE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i00
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(vehicletrimabbreviatedid);
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i01
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i01;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i01
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(lower(vehicletrimabbreviated::text));
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i02
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i02;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i02
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(vehiclesubmodelid, vehiclebodystyleid);
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i03
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i03;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i03
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(vehiclebodystyleid);
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i04
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i04;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i04
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(vehiclebodystylegroupid, vehiclesubmodelid, vehiclebodystyleid);
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i05
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i05;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i05
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(lower(vehicletrimabbreviated::text), vehiclesubmodelid);
-- Index: vehicletrimabbreviated_i06
-- DROP INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i06;
CREATE INDEX vehicletrimabbreviated_i06
ON vehicletrimabbreviated
USING btree
(vehiclesubmodelid, vehiclebodystyleid);
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-09 19:37 ` Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Emi Lu @ 2011-05-09 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
> I have the following query
>
> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>
> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>
> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>
> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>
> Results:
>
> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>
> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>
> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>
> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>
> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>
> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>
> 533;"CX Minivan"
>
> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>
> 534;"CX Sedan"
>
> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>
> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>
> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then CXL,
> Then CXS
Would you mind try:
Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
order by
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
@ 2011-05-09 19:39 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-10 16:57 ` Re: Sorting Issue Edward W. Rouse <erouse@comsquared.com>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-09 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; +Cc: pgsql-sql
That works. Why?
-----Original Message-----
From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:38 PM
To: Ozer, Pam
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
> I have the following query
>
> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>
> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>
> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>
> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>
> Results:
>
> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>
> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>
> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>
> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>
> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>
> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>
> 533;"CX Minivan"
>
> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>
> 534;"CX Sedan"
>
> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>
> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>
> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
CXL,
> Then CXS
Would you mind try:
Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
order by
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-09 19:52 ` Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Emi Lu @ 2011-05-09 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
> That works. Why?
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/functions-string.html
split_part(string text, delimiter text, field int) text Split string on
delimiter and return the given field (counting from one)
split_part('abc~@~def~@~ghi', '~@~', 2) def
Emi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:38 PM
> To: Ozer, Pam
> Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
>
>> I have the following query
>>
>> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>>
>> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>>
>> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>>
>> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>>
>> Results:
>>
>> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>>
>> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>>
>> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>>
>> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>>
>> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>>
>> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>>
>> 533;"CX Minivan"
>>
>> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>>
>> 534;"CX Sedan"
>>
>> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>>
>> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>>
>> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
> CXL,
>> Then CXS
>
> Would you mind try:
>
> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
> order by
>
> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
>
>
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
@ 2011-05-09 19:52 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-09 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; +Cc: pgsql-sql
Ok but why doesn't the other way work? I can't use the function in my
query. It is dynamically created.
-----Original Message-----
From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Ozer, Pam
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
> That works. Why?
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/functions-string.html
split_part(string text, delimiter text, field int) text Split
string on
delimiter and return the given field (counting from one)
split_part('abc~@~def~@~ghi', '~@~', 2) def
Emi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:38 PM
> To: Ozer, Pam
> Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
>
>> I have the following query
>>
>> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>>
>> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>>
>> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>>
>> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>>
>> Results:
>>
>> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>>
>> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>>
>> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>>
>> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>>
>> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>>
>> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>>
>> 533;"CX Minivan"
>>
>> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>>
>> 534;"CX Sedan"
>>
>> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>>
>> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>>
>> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
> CXL,
>> Then CXS
>
> Would you mind try:
>
> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
> order by
>
> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
>
>
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-09 20:38 ` Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Emi Lu @ 2011-05-09 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
Hi Pam,
>> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>> order by
>>
>> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
>> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
This query works, right?
Reason:
======
. split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) return the string before
the blank
. split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) return the string after the
blank
So
[1] you order by CX, CXL, CXS first
[2] you order by second part "Hatchback, Minivan... "
Is there clear now?
Emi
On 05/09/2011 03:52 PM, Ozer, Pam wrote:
> Ok but why doesn't the other way work? I can't use the function in my
> query. It is dynamically created.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: Ozer, Pam
> Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
>
>
>> That works. Why?
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/functions-string.html
>
>
> split_part(string text, delimiter text, field int) text Split
> string on
> delimiter and return the given field (counting from one)
> split_part('abc~@~def~@~ghi', '~@~', 2) def
>
> Emi
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:38 PM
>> To: Ozer, Pam
>> Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
>> Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
>>
>>> I have the following query
>>>
>>> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>>>
>>> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>>>
>>> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>>>
>>> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>>>
>>> Results:
>>>
>>> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>>>
>>> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>>>
>>> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>>>
>>> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>>>
>>> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>>>
>>> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>>>
>>> 533;"CX Minivan"
>>>
>>> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>>>
>>> 534;"CX Sedan"
>>>
>>> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>>>
>>> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>>>
>>> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
>> CXL,
>>> Then CXS
>>
>> Would you mind try:
>>
>> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>> order by
>>
>> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
>> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
>>
>>
--
Emi Lu, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal H3G 1M8
emilu@encs.concordia.ca +1 514 848-2424 x5884
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
@ 2011-05-09 21:08 ` Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Gendler @ 2011-05-09 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; +Cc: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; pgsql-sql
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca> wrote:
> Hi Pam,
>
>
> >> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
> >> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
> >> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
> >> order by
> >>
> >> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
> >> split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
>
> This query works, right?
>
> Reason:
> ======
> . split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) return the string before the
> blank
>
> . split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) return the string after the
> blank
>
> So
> [1] you order by CX, CXL, CXS first
> [2] you order by second part "Hatchback, Minivan... "
>
> Is there clear now?
>
>
Not really. It should sort alphabetically the same in either case. Here's
an alphabetic sort of similar strings in python
>>> a = ["CX Hatchback", "CXL Minivan", "CXL Premium Sedan", "CXL Sedan",
"CXL Sport Utility", "CXL Turbo Sedan", "CX Minivan", "CXS Sedan"]
>>> a.sort()
>>> a
['CX Hatchback', 'CX Minivan', 'CXL Minivan', 'CXL Premium Sedan', 'CXL
Sedan', 'CXL Sport Utility', 'CXL Turbo Sedan', 'CXS Sedan']
It's not at all clear why they are not coming out of the db in
alphabetically sorted order when the query includes "order by
VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc"
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
@ 2011-05-09 21:28 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Tom Lane @ 2011-05-09 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; +Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca, "Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com>; pgsql-sql
Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com> writes:
> It's not at all clear why they are not coming out of the db in
> alphabetically sorted order when the query includes "order by
> VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc"
Usually the thing to ask at this point is "what's the database's
LC_COLLATE setting"? Non-C locales often have truly bizarre
sorting rules.
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2011-05-09 22:13 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-09 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; +Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
The collate setting is
LC_COLLATE = 'English_United States.1252'
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Samuel Gendler
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; Ozer, Pam; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com> writes:
> It's not at all clear why they are not coming out of the db in
> alphabetically sorted order when the query includes "order by
> VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc"
Usually the thing to ask at this point is "what's the database's
LC_COLLATE setting"? Non-C locales often have truly bizarre
sorting rules.
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-10 15:07 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-10 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; +Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
I was wrong it is
LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
-----Original Message-----
From: Ozer, Pam
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:13 PM
To: 'Tom Lane'; Samuel Gendler
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: RE: [SQL] Sorting Issue
The collate setting is
LC_COLLATE = 'English_United States.1252'
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Samuel Gendler
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; Ozer, Pam; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com> writes:
> It's not at all clear why they are not coming out of the db in
> alphabetically sorted order when the query includes "order by
> VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc"
Usually the thing to ask at this point is "what's the database's
LC_COLLATE setting"? Non-C locales often have truly bizarre
sorting rules.
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-10 15:26 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 16:47 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-10 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; +Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
Thanks
Pam
-----Original Message-----
From: Ozer, Pam
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:13 PM
To: 'Tom Lane'; Samuel Gendler
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: RE: [SQL] Sorting Issue
The collate setting is
LC_COLLATE = 'English_United States.1252'
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Samuel Gendler
Cc: emilu@encs.concordia.ca; Ozer, Pam; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com> writes:
> It's not at all clear why they are not coming out of the db in
> alphabetically sorted order when the query includes "order by
> VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc"
Usually the thing to ask at this point is "what's the database's
LC_COLLATE setting"? Non-C locales often have truly bizarre
sorting rules.
regards, tom lane
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-10 16:47 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-10 17:45 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-18 22:22 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Tom Lane @ 2011-05-10 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; +Cc: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
"Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
> Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
> locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
> LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass. You might be
happier using "C" collation. Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
your database (as of existing PG releases).
regards, tom lane
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 16:47 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2011-05-10 17:45 ` Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-10 17:56 ` Re: Sorting Issue Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Gendler @ 2011-05-10 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> "Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
> > Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
> > locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
>
> > LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
>
> en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
> I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass. You might be
> happier using "C" collation. Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
> your database (as of existing PG releases).
>
ugh. So what's the initdb incantation necessary to sort the way I'd expect
an alphabetic sort to happen? I'm literally just in the process of bringing
up a new project, so it's a perfect opportunity for me to get this set up
correctly to begin with. THe default on my system was definitely
en_US.utf8.
--sam
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 16:47 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-10 17:45 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
@ 2011-05-10 17:56 ` Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Scott Marlowe @ 2011-05-10 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; +Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Samuel Gendler
<sgendler@ideasculptor.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>
>> "Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
>> > Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
>> > locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
>>
>> > LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
>>
>> en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
>> I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass. You might be
>> happier using "C" collation. Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
>> your database (as of existing PG releases).
>
>
> ugh. So what's the initdb incantation necessary to sort the way I'd expect
> an alphabetic sort to happen? I'm literally just in the process of bringing
> up a new project, so it's a perfect opportunity for me to get this set up
> correctly to begin with. THe default on my system was definitely
> en_US.utf8.
initdb --locale=C
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 16:47 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2011-05-18 22:22 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-25 22:18 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-18 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
Is there anywhere that gives you all the available collations and their
definitions? I found with the C collation it now sorts the spaces
correct but it is also case sensitive which messes with some of our
other sorts.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:47 AM
To: Ozer, Pam
Cc: Samuel Gendler; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
"Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
> Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
> locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
> LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass. You might be
happier using "C" collation. Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
your database (as of existing PG releases).
regards, tom lane
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:52 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 20:38 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 21:08 ` Re: Sorting Issue Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>
2011-05-09 21:28 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-09 22:13 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:07 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 15:26 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-10 16:47 ` Re: Sorting Issue Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2011-05-18 22:22 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-25 22:18 ` Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ozer, Pam @ 2011-05-25 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>; Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql
Since no one has responded does that mean there is no list anywhere? Or
does anyone know of a collation that will allow for case insensitive
sorting as well as not ignoring spaces?
-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Ozer, Pam
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:22 PM
To: Tom Lane
Cc: Samuel Gendler; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
Is there anywhere that gives you all the available collations and their
definitions? I found with the C collation it now sorts the spaces
correct but it is also case sensitive which messes with some of our
other sorts.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:47 AM
To: Ozer, Pam
Cc: Samuel Gendler; emilu@encs.concordia.ca; pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
"Ozer, Pam" <pozer@automotive.com> writes:
> Isn't this the English standard for collation? Or is this a non-c
> locale as mentioned below? Is there anyway around this?
> LC_COLLATE = 'en_US.utf8'
en_US is probably using somebody's idea of "dictionary order", which
I believe includes ignoring spaces in the first pass. You might be
happier using "C" collation. Unfortunately that requires re-initdb'ing
your database (as of existing PG releases).
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Sorting Issue
2011-05-09 16:25 Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
2011-05-09 19:37 ` Re: Sorting Issue Emi Lu <emilu@encs.concordia.ca>
2011-05-09 19:39 ` Re: Sorting Issue Ozer, Pam <pozer@automotive.com>
@ 2011-05-10 16:57 ` Edward W. Rouse <erouse@comsquared.com>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Edward W. Rouse @ 2011-05-10 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
Looks like the sort is removing the spaces before sorting.
cxh
cxlm
cxlp
etc...
Edward W. Rouse
-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org]
On Behalf Of Ozer, Pam
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:39 PM
To: emilu@encs.concordia.ca
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
That works. Why?
-----Original Message-----
From: Emi Lu [mailto:emilu@encs.concordia.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:38 PM
To: Ozer, Pam
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Sorting Issue
> I have the following query
>
> Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
>
> from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
>
> Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
>
> order by VehicleTrimAbbreviated asc
>
> Results:
>
> 532;"CX Hatchback"
>
> 536;"CXL Minivan"
>
> 3255;"CXL Premium Sedan"
>
> 537;"CXL Sedan"
>
> 538;"CXL Sport Utility"
>
> 3319;"CXL Turbo Sedan"
>
> 533;"CX Minivan"
>
> 1959;"CX Plus Minivan"
>
> 534;"CX Sedan"
>
> 535;"CX Sport Utility"
>
> 539;"CXS Sedan"
>
> Why would this not sort correctly? All the CX should be first, then
CXL,
> Then CXS
Would you mind try:
Select VehicleTrimAbbreviated, VehicleTrimAbbreviatedId
from VehicleTrimAbbreviated
Where vehicleTrimAbbreviated like 'CX%'
order by
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 1) asc,
split_part(VehicleTrimAbbreviated, ' ', 2) asc;
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