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From: Achilleus Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Ron Mayer <ron@intervideo.com>
Cc: josh@agliodbs.com
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] 7.3 analyze & vacuum analyze problem
Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 17:03:21 -0200 (GMT+2)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305021550260.19233-100000@matrix.gatewaynet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305021409010.19233-100000@matrix.gatewaynet.com>

On Fri, 2 May 2003, Achilleus Mantzios wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It would be interesting to see the pg_class and pg_stats rows for this
> > table after VACUUM ANALYZE and after ANALYZE --- but I suspect the main
> > difference will be the reltuples values.
> 
> I surely must generate a reproducable scenario,
> describing the exact steps made, so i'll focus
> on that.

I use a freebsd-current (hereafter called FBSD) as a test environment,
with a freshly reloaded db and NO VACUUM or ANALYZE ever run, and i 
EXPLAIN ANALYZE some queries against a linux 2.4.18SMP (hereafter called 
LNX) which is the production environment, and on which a recent VACUUM 
FULL ANALYZE is run.

Some queries run *very* fast on FBSD and very slow on LNX,
where others run very slow on FBSD and very fast on LNX.
(Here the oper system is not an issue, i just use these
2 acronyms as aliases for the 2 situations/environments.

So i have:

================= FBSD ===================
========= QueryA (A VERY FAST PLAN)  =====
dynacom=# EXPLAIN ANALYZE select count(*) from status where 
assettable='vessels' and appname='ISM PMS' and apptblname='items' and 
status='warn' and isvalid and assetidval=57;
                                                                                                         
QUERY PLAN
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Aggregate  (cost=6.02..6.02 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=14.16..14.16 
rows=1 loops=1)
   ->  Index Scan using status_all on status  (cost=0.00..6.02 rows=1 
width=0) (actual time=13.09..13.95 rows=75 loops=1)
         Index Cond: ((assettable = 'vessels'::character varying) AND 
(assetidval = 57) AND (appname = 'ISM PMS'::character varying) AND 
(apptblname = 'items'::character
varying) AND (status = 'warn'::character varying))
         Filter: isvalid
 Total runtime: 14.40 msec
(5 rows)
 
dynacom=#
===============QueryB A VERY SLOW PLAN  =====
dynacom=# EXPLAIN ANALYZE select it.id from items it,machdefs md where 
it.defid = md.defid and first(md.parents)=16492 and it.vslwhid = 53 and 
it.machtypecount = 1 order
by md.description,md.partno;
                                                                  QUERY 
PLAN
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sort  (cost=457.76..457.77 rows=1 width=68) (actual time=150.31..150.31 
rows=0 loops=1)
   Sort Key: md.description, md.partno
   ->  Nested Loop  (cost=0.00..457.75 rows=1 width=68) (actual 
time=150.16..150.16 rows=0 loops=1)
         ->  Index Scan using items_machtypecount on items it  
(cost=0.00..451.73 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.99..89.30 rows=2245 
loops=1)
               Index Cond: (machtypecount = 1)
               Filter: (vslwhid = 53)
         ->  Index Scan using machdefs_pkey on machdefs md  
(cost=0.00..6.01 rows=1 width=60) (actual time=0.02..0.02 rows=0 
loops=2245)
               Index Cond: ("outer".defid = md.defid)
               Filter: (first(parents) = 16492)
 Total runtime: 150.58 msec
(10 rows)
 
dynacom=# 
=================END FBSD=================

=================LNX =====================
========= QueryA (A VERY SLOW PLAN)  =====
dynacom=# EXPLAIN ANALYZE select count(*) from status where 
assettable='vessels' and appname='ISM PMS' and apptblname='items' and 
status='warn' and isvalid and assetidval=57;
                                                                                                             
QUERY PLAN
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Aggregate  (cost=1346.56..1346.56 rows=1 width=0) (actual 
time=244.05..244.05 rows=1 loops=1)
   ->  Seq Scan on status  (cost=0.00..1345.81 rows=300 width=0) (actual 
time=0.63..243.93 rows=75 loops=1)
         Filter: ((assettable = 'vessels'::character varying) AND (appname 
= 'ISM PMS'::character varying) AND (apptblname = 'items'::character 
varying) AND (status = 'warn'::character varying) AND isvalid AND 
(assetidval = 57))
 Total runtime: 244.12 msec
(4 rows)
 
dynacom=#
=========== QueryB (A VERY FAST PLAN)=======
dynacom=# EXPLAIN ANALYZE select it.id from items it,machdefs md where 
it.defid = md.defid and first(md.parents)=16492 and it.vslwhid = 53 and 
it.machtypecount = 1 order by md.description,md.partno;
                                                               QUERY PLAN
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sort  (cost=631.23..631.26 rows=11 width=42) (actual time=0.08..0.08 
rows=0 loops=1)
   Sort Key: md.description, md.partno
   ->  Nested Loop  (cost=0.00..631.05 rows=11 width=42) (actual 
time=0.03..0.03 rows=0 loops=1)
         ->  Index Scan using machdefs_dad on machdefs md  
(cost=0.00..228.38 rows=67 width=34) (actual time=0.02..0.02 rows=0 
loops=1)
               Index Cond: (first(parents) = 16492)
         ->  Index Scan using items_defid_vslid_mtcnt on items it  
(cost=0.00..5.99 rows=1 width=8) (never executed)
               Index Cond: ((it.defid = "outer".defid) AND (it.vslwhid = 
53) AND (it.machtypecount = 1))
 Total runtime: 0.15 msec
(8 rows)
 
dynacom=#

======= END LNX =====================================

* first is a function:
 integer first(integer[]),
that returns the first element of a [1xN] array.

Now i run a VACUUM FULL ANALYZE; on the FBSD system
and after taht,i get  *identical* plans as on the LNX system.
So, the VACUUM FULL ANALYZE command helps QueryB, but screws
QueryA.

Here i paste pg_stats,pg_class data for the 3 tables (status, 
machdefs, items) on the FBSD system

====BEFORE the VACUUM FULL ANALYZE=====
dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='status';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+--------
relname        | status
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3470164
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3470163
relpages       | 562
reltuples      | 33565
reltoastrelid  | 0
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 12
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 0
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | f
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |
 
dynacom=#
dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='machdefs';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+---------
relname        | machdefs
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3470079
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3470078
relpages       | 175
reltuples      | 13516
reltoastrelid  | 3470081
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 20
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 7
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | t
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |

dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='items';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+--------
relname        | items
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3470149
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3470148
relpages       | 233
reltuples      | 29433
reltoastrelid  | 3470153
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 25
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 10
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | t
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |
 
dynacom=#

Before the VACUUM [FULL] ANALYZE No statistics are produced


====AFTER the VACUUM FULL ANALYZE=====

===========================================================
dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='status';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+--------
relname        | status
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3191663
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3191662
relpages       | 562
reltuples      | 33565
reltoastrelid  | 0
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 12
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 0
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | f
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |
 
dynacom=#

dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='machdefs';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+---------
relname        | machdefs
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3191578
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3191577
relpages       | 175
reltuples      | 13516
reltoastrelid  | 3191580
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 20
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 7
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | t
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |
 
dynacom=#

dynacom=# SELECT * from pg_class where relname='items';
-[ RECORD 1 ]--+--------
relname        | items
relnamespace   | 2200
reltype        | 3191648
relowner       | 1
relam          | 0
relfilenode    | 3191647
relpages       | 232
reltuples      | 29433
reltoastrelid  | 3191652
reltoastidxid  | 0
relhasindex    | t
relisshared    | f
relkind        | r
relnatts       | 25
relchecks      | 0
reltriggers    | 10
relukeys       | 0
relfkeys       | 0
relrefs        | 0
relhasoids     | t
relhaspkey     | t
relhasrules    | f
relhassubclass | f
relacl         |
 
dynacom=# SELECT 
tablename,attname,null_frac,avg_width,n_distinct,most_common_vals,most_common_freqs,histogram_bounds,correlation 
from pg_stats where tablename='status';

 tablename |   attname   | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct |                                   most_common_vals                                   |                                                most_common_freqs                                                |                                                                                                                                                         histogram_bounds                                                                                                                                                         | correlation 
-----------+-------------+-----------+-----------+------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
 status    | id          |         0 |         4 |         -1 |                                                                                      |                                                                                                                 | {8,3677,6977,10159,13753,17012,20228,23620,26864,30311,33859}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    |    0.795126
 status    | checkdate   |         0 |         8 |         -1 |                                                                                      |                                                                                                                 | {"2002-10-19 10:54:53.764+03","2003-03-01 05:00:22.691+02","2003-03-03 05:00:23.876+02","2003-03-04 05:00:28.912+02","2003-03-29 05:00:28.099+02","2003-03-30 05:00:24.009+03","2003-04-02 12:14:34.221+03","2003-04-26 05:02:53.133+03","2003-04-29 05:01:43.716+03","2003-04-30 05:01:05.727+03","2003-04-30 05:01:46.749+03"} |    0.844914
 status    | assettable  |         0 |        11 |          1 | {vessels}                                                                            | {1}                                                                                                             |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |           1
 status    | assetidval  |         0 |         4 |         21 | {53,57,48,65,33,61,49}                                                               | {0.11,0.108667,0.0916667,0.079,0.073,0.0693333,0.0626667}                                                       | {20,24,26,29,32,35,36,43,44,47,79}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |     0.15861
 status    | appname     |         0 |        11 |          6 | {"ISM PMS",Class.Certificates,Class.Surveys,Repairs,Class.CMS,Class.Recommendations} | {0.975333,0.01,0.00633333,0.004,0.003,0.00133333}                                                               |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.963033
 status    | apptblname  |         0 |         9 |          5 | {items,certificates,surveys,repdat,recommendations}                                  | {0.978333,0.01,0.00633333,0.004,0.00133333}                                                                     |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |     0.96127
 status    | apptblidval |         0 |         4 |  -0.165914 | {18799,2750,9025,12364,12491,20331,20546,20558,21665,22913}                          | {0.00166667,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.00133333} | {1,4996,8117,12367,14441,16488,19586,21155,22762,24026,32802}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    |    0.104023
 status    | colname     |         0 |        14 |          6 | {lastrepdate,lastinspdate,rh,N/A,status,classsurvey}                                 | {0.685,0.241333,0.049,0.0176667,0.004,0.003}                                                                    |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.487112
 status    | colval      |         0 |         8 |   -0.56769 | {0,1,2991,27,146,1102,412,784,136,1126}                                              | {0.0206667,0.004,0.002,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00133333,0.00133333,0.001,0.001}                      | {21,14442.908,14506.476,18028.868,18038.256,18045.821,18053.101,18062.404,18076.057,150212.049,96805423.065}                                                                                                                                                                                                                     |    0.197915
 status    | status      |         0 |         8 |          2 | {warn,alarm}                                                                         | {0.524333,0.475667}                                                                                             |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.514211
 status    | isvalid     |         0 |         1 |          2 | {f,t}                                                                                | {0.789333,0.210667}                                                                                             |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.967602
 status    | username    |         0 |        12 |          7 | {periodic,amantzio,ckaklaman,secretuser,mitsios,birtsia,lignos}                      | {0.856333,0.053,0.0433333,0.029,0.013,0.00266667,0.00266667}                                                    |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.769222
(12 rows)

dynacom=# SELECT 
tablename,attname,null_frac,avg_width,n_distinct,most_common_vals,most_common_freqs,histogram_bounds,correlation 
from pg_stats where tablename='machdefs'; 

 tablename |   attname   | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct |                                            most_common_vals                                             |                                           most_common_freqs                                           |                                                                                                                      histogram_bounds                                                                                                                      | correlation 
-----------+-------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
 machdefs  | defid       |         0 |         4 |         -1 |                                                                                                         |                                                                                                       | {2482,4607,6556,7957,9339,10662,12006,13822,15082,16533,18224}                                                                                                                                                                                             |    0.315706
 machdefs  | parents     |  0.124667 |        29 |  -0.345266 | {"{8673}","{4456}","{9338}","{11565}","{6865}","{11183}","{10810}","{9852}","{7016}","{7636}"}          | {0.0166667,0.016,0.016,0.0156667,0.013,0.0126667,0.0106667,0.01,0.01,0.00966667}                      |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |            
 machdefs  | description |  0.281333 |        20 |  -0.101338 | {Inspection,Rings,Overhaul,Greasing/Lubrication,Bearings,Oil,"Safety devices",Motor,Cleaning,Crankcase} | {0.0296667,0.01,0.008,0.00733333,0.00633333,0.00633333,0.006,0.00533333,0.005,0.00433333}             | {"1T11 Vortex Pump","Camshaft drive","Cylinder Lubricator Pump body","Ejector pump","Fuel injection pump No5","Inlet valve","Main bearing No6","Piston & Connecting rod No6","Safety cut out device No7","Stuffing box","dP/I Transmitter flow meter kit"} |     0.04711
 machdefs  | partno      |  0.840667 |        10 |        327 |                                                                                                         |                                                                                                       | {0137,151623-54101,302,51.04101-0479,90401-48-296,"G 21401","Z 11918","Z 23165","Z 27242","Z 27533",ZK34402}                                                                                                                                               |    0.394772
 machdefs  | machtypeid  |         0 |         4 |        739 | {358,632,207,364,16,633,1006,31,533,723}                                                                | {0.0853333,0.0326667,0.0226667,0.0223333,0.0203333,0.0203333,0.0203333,0.0196667,0.0196667,0.0196667} | {19,64,129,330,456,631,809,932,1048,1242,1575}                                                                                                                                                                                                             |    0.128535
 machdefs  | rhbec       |  0.782667 |         4 |         20 | {6000}                                                                                                  | {0.073}                                                                                               | {375,750,1500,1500,3000,3750,3750,7500,9000,12000,37500}                                                                                                                                                                                                   |    0.300707
 machdefs  | rhdue       |  0.782667 |         4 |         20 | {8000}                                                                                                  | {0.073}                                                                                               | {500,1000,2000,2000,4000,5000,5000,10000,12000,16000,50000}                                                                                                                                                                                                |    0.300707
 machdefs  | periodbec   |  0.458667 |         4 |         11 | {22}                                                                                                    | {0.262333}                                                                                            | {5,67,67,67,135,135,270,270,675,1350}                                                                                                                                                                                                                      |    0.415895
 machdefs  | perioddue   |  0.458667 |         4 |         10 | {30,90,180,360,1800,7,900,720,120,60}                                                                   | {0.262333,0.0833333,0.053,0.0456667,0.0233333,0.021,0.021,0.0156667,0.0153333,0.000666667}            |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |    0.419195
 machdefs  | action      |  0.474333 |        13 |         56 | {Inspection,Overhaul,Cleaning,Clearances,"Megger Report"}                                               | {0.151333,0.0966667,0.0746667,0.0273333,0.0236667}                                                    | {"Actuation test",Check,"Check Position",Greasing/Lubrication,Landing,"Pressure Test",Renewal,Renewal,"Report Receipt",Test,"Water Washing"}                                                                                                               |    0.180053
 machdefs  | application |  0.973333 |        18 |          2 | {"Megger Report","CrankShaft Deflection Report"}                                                        | {0.0236667,0.003}                                                                                     |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |    0.999508
(11 rows)

dynacom=# SELECT 
tablename,attname,null_frac,avg_width,n_distinct,most_common_vals,most_common_freqs,histogram_bounds,correlation 
from pg_stats where tablename='items';   

 tablename |     attname     | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct |                      most_common_vals                       |                                             most_common_freqs                                              |                                                                                                                                                         histogram_bounds                                                                                                                                                         | correlation 
-----------+-----------------+-----------+-----------+------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
 items     | id              |         0 |         4 |         -1 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {2315,7279,12104,15875,19170,22170,25511,28420,32582,35753,38322}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |    0.427626
 items     | vslwhid         |         0 |         4 |         19 | {57,53,65,74}                                               | {0.130333,0.125,0.116667,0.0746667}                                                                        | {24,29,31,33,43,44,48,49,61,76,79}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |   0.0679692
 items     | serialno        |     0.952 |        10 |        149 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {014-3255,120092,1294207,20081,318216,56678,80-51,A1-0548,BV54654,KC60525,XL5334}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |  -0.0161482
 items     | rh              |  0.863667 |         4 |        191 | {0}                                                         | {0.008}                                                                                                    | {1,172,400,855,1292,2322,3191,4328,4906,6421,37679}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |   0.0437569
 items     | lastinspdate    |     0.885 |         4 |        120 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {1999-05-28,2002-04-23,2002-12-06,2003-01-15,2003-02-01,2003-02-22,2003-03-04,2003-03-15,2003-03-21,2003-03-28,2003-10-09}                                                                                                                                                                                                       |    0.101498
 items     | classused       |         0 |         4 |          2 | {0,1}                                                       | {0.985333,0.0146667}                                                                                       |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.979994
 items     | classaa         |  0.985333 |         4 |         43 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {5,24,50,69,93,104,132,178,686,1072,1241}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        |   -0.114588
 items     | classsurvey     |  0.985333 |        31 |         44 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {"Aux Boiler Feed Inner Pump (No.1)","Ballast Inner Pump (No.1)","Emergency Fire Pump","M/E Cylinder Relief valve No2","M/E Piston No4","No.1 Cooling S.W.Pump for G/E","No.2 Cargo Oil Pump","No.2 Main Generator Diesel Engine","No.4 Connecting rod, top end and guides","No.6 Safety valve of M/E","Sea Water Service Pump"} |  -0.0264975
 items     | classsurveydate |  0.987333 |         4 |         20 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {1998-05-31,1998-05-31,2000-01-31,2000-05-31,2001-03-31,2001-09-30,2002-02-28,2002-07-31,2002-12-31,2003-02-16,2003-04-23}                                                                                                                                                                                                       |    0.305832
 items     | classduedate    |  0.985333 |         4 |         22 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {2003-05-31,2003-07-31,2004-07-31,2005-01-31,2005-10-18,2006-07-31,2006-09-30,2007-07-31,2007-12-31,2008-02-28,2008-04-30}                                                                                                                                                                                                       |   0.0222692
 items     | classcomment    |  0.997333 |        26 |          1 | {"Main Propulsion System"}                                  | {0.00266667}                                                                                               |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |           1
 items     | defid           |         0 |         4 |  -0.243872 | {15856,15859,15851,13801,14179,14181,15860,15865,2771,2775} | {0.00333333,0.00233333,0.002,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00166667,0.00133333,0.00133333} | {2319,3192,5182,7387,9296,11020,12862,14001,15190,16852,18221}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |    0.321816
 items     | machtypecount   |         0 |         4 |          8 | {1,2,3,4,6,5,7,8}                                           | {0.62,0.22,0.139667,0.0113333,0.00466667,0.003,0.000666667,0.000666667}                                    |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.489828
 items     | totalrh         |         0 |         4 |          2 | {0}                                                         | {0.999667}                                                                                                 |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |    0.999829
 items     | comment         |  0.928667 |         7 |         34 |                                                             |                                                                                                            | {1,3,"90KVA-General service",No1,No1,No1,No2,No2,No2,No3,Stbd}                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |    0.384123
 items     | lastrepdate     |  0.742667 |         4 |         10 | {2003-03-31}                                                | {0.187333}                                                                                                 | {2002-06-30,2003-02-28,2003-02-28,2003-02-28,2003-04-01,2003-04-04,2003-04-04,2003-04-04,2003-04-08}                                                                                                                                                                                                                             |    0.887771
(16 rows)


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It seems that the presence of Statistics really hurt status table.
In the other cases (machdefs,items) VACUUM ANALYZE does
a pretty good job. (or at least compared to the "no stats at all" case).

Also Tom, i could give you access, if you want, to the test environment :)

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> > 			regards, tom lane
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> 

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