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To: Lætitia Avrot <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: What we need to do
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:16:12 -0700
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Please don’t feel sorry for me. I am a veteran of the feminist wars. I could have used a little tlc at the time but I got it elsewhere.
Our ideas are not quite different. Space for women in postgres. And I have said I will support the mailing list. And of course I belong.
I just wanted you all to know you are not the first ones and add a little warning about the backlash.
Lessons learned: insist on being part of the committee discussions. Broadcast or share vicious personal emails or attacks. (I deleted mine and have regretted it. )
Carry on
Elein Mustain
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510-637-9106
> On Apr 23, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Lætitia Avrot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Elein,
>
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>> A little history. I had tried to create a postgres-women mailing list several years ago. I wanted it to be women only, a la systers, and once established possibly opening to anyone. I felt the time to forge our space was important.
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>> I was not included on most mail in the discussions with the committee. And so was prevented from arguing my case. I also received vicious personal emails.
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>> I have worked as a woman in tech for 30+ years. I have worked on productized and open source postgres since 1992.
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>> I have happily worked with many postgres men. But the vitriol about our list was beyond the pale.
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>> With all that said, carry on in your best way and I will support you.
>>
>> Elein Mustain
>> [email protected]
>> 510-637-9106
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> I can't find words to tell you how sorry I am for what you have to live through. My vision when beginning postgres women is quite different but I will always find time to read and hear other's point of view. You're, of course, welcome to our group and I'd like to chat with you to understand better your vision.
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> Have a nice day,
>
> Lætitia
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