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* Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-12 16:29 Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 16:44 ` Re: Gborg still down Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:42 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Greg Sabino Mullane @ 2006-04-12 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www


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Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?

And how long until it is working again? Even if not the
www portion, the cvs would be nice to have back up.

- --
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 16:29 Gborg still down Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-12 16:44 ` Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2006-04-12 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Greg,

> Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?
> 
> And how long until it is working again? Even if not the
> www portion, the cvs would be nice to have back up.

This reminds me, I'm looking at doing the Final Migration off GBorg (as 
commanded by Bruce) in May.

--Josh



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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 16:29 Gborg still down Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-12 18:42 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-04-12 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www


thanks for letting me know its down ... everything is back up now ...

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

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> And how long until it is working again? Even if not the
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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-12 18:05 Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:43 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2006-04-12 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; pgsql-www


-----Original Message-----
From: "Greg Sabino Mullane"<[email protected]>
Sent: 12/04/06 17:29:24
To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Subject: [pgsql-www] Gborg still down

> Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?

I cannot fix it now as I'm on a pda, but I haven't seen any reports of problems for weeks. What broke & when?

Regards, Dave

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Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?

And how long until it is working again? Even if not the
www portion, the cvs would be nice to have back up.

- --
Greg Sabino Mullane [email protected]
PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200604121228
http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 18:05 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-12 18:43 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:26   ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-04-12 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Dave Page wrote:

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Greg Sabino Mullane"<[email protected]>
> Sent: 12/04/06 17:29:24
> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
> Subject: [pgsql-www] Gborg still down
>
>> Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?
>
> I cannot fix it now as I'm on a pda, but I haven't seen any reports of 
> problems for weeks. What broke & when?

neptune rebooted last night, and, for some reasons, some vServers didn't 
restart, altho their IPs did get configured ... thought I had gotten all 
of the ones that were down, but obviously I missed this one :(

  >
> Regards, Dave
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> Can someone give an update as to what is happening on gborg?
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> And how long until it is working again? Even if not the
> www portion, the cvs would be nice to have back up.
>
> - --
> Greg Sabino Mullane [email protected]
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 18:05 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:43 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 17:26   ` Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:50     ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Jim C. Nasby @ 2006-04-21 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 03:43:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> neptune rebooted last night, and, for some reasons, some vServers didn't 
> restart, altho their IPs did get configured ... thought I had gotten all 
> of the ones that were down, but obviously I missed this one :(

Do we not have anything that monitors the availability of our various
websites??
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 18:05 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:43 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:26   ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 17:50     ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:55       ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 03:43:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> neptune rebooted last night, and, for some reasons, some vServers didn't 
>> restart, altho their IPs did get configured ... thought I had gotten all 
>> of the ones that were down, but obviously I missed this one :(
> 
> Do we not have anything that monitors the availability of our various
> websites??

The websites that CMD hosts, are monitored. I have no idea about the rest.

Joshua D. Drake

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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 18:05 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:43 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:26   ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:50     ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 17:55       ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 18:27         ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-04-21 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Jim C. Nasby wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 03:43:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>> neptune rebooted last night, and, for some reasons, some vServers didn't 
>>> restart, altho their IPs did get configured ... thought I had gotten all 
>>> of the ones that were down, but obviously I missed this one :(
>> 
>> Do we not have anything that monitors the availability of our various
>> websites??
>
> The websites that CMD hosts, are monitored. I have no idea about the rest.

Dave has a central nagios server setup, last I heard, for monitoring 
everything ...

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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-12 18:05 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-12 18:43 ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:26   ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:50     ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 17:55       ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 18:27         ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www


>> The websites that CMD hosts, are monitored. I have no idea about the 
>> rest.
> 
> Dave has a central nagios server setup, last I heard, for monitoring 
> everything ...

Well all due respect, but as hub "Hosts the project" Why doesn't Hub 
have monitoring for everything.

Joshua D. Drake


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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-21 18:29 Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 19:04 ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Magnus Hagander @ 2006-04-21 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

> >> The websites that CMD hosts, are monitored. I have no idea 
> about the 
> >> rest.
> > 
> > Dave has a central nagios server setup, last I heard, for 
> monitoring 
> > everything ...
> 
> Well all due respect, but as hub "Hosts the project" Why 
> doesn't Hub have monitoring for everything.

Because it makes more sense monitoring internet services from *outside*
the hosting network? ;-)

(The main reason we stuck the automirror system on a network where
*nothing* else pgsql related lives..)

//Magnus



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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 18:29 Re: Gborg still down Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 19:04 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www


> Because it makes more sense monitoring internet services from *outside*
> the hosting network? ;-)

Well of course :) That's what we do. We have a server that sits 
somewhere else entirely that does our nagios.

My main point was it seems that this is something hub should be invovled 
in sense a lot of the core servers are hosted by hub.


Joshua D. Drake

> 
> (The main reason we stuck the automirror system on a network where
> *nothing* else pgsql related lives..)
> 
> //Magnus
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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-21 19:41 Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:15 ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 22:45 ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Dave Page @ 2006-04-21 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 21 April 2006 20:05
> To: Magnus Hagander
> Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Jim C. Nasby; Dave Page; 
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Gborg still down
> 
> 
> > Because it makes more sense monitoring internet services from 
> > *outside* the hosting network? ;-)
> 
> Well of course :) That's what we do. We have a server that 
> sits somewhere else entirely that does our nagios.
> 
> My main point was it seems that this is something hub should 
> be invovled in sense a lot of the core servers are hosted by hub.

Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
pretty well distributed around the world these days.

Regards, Dave



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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 20:15 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:16   ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www


> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
> pretty well distributed around the world these days.

I would be happy to add our nagios server to the monitoring mix. Just 
let us know what you would like us to monitor and who should be notified.

Joshua D. Drake

> 
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:15 ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 20:16   ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:18     ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-04-21 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
>> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
>> pretty well distributed around the world these days.
>
> I would be happy to add our nagios server to the monitoring mix. Just let us 
> know what you would like us to monitor and who should be notified.

Just please don't put me onto your auto-page list again ... the last time, 
I spent more time looking at false positives ... actually, they were all 
false positives :(

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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:15 ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 20:16   ` Re: Gborg still down Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 20:18     ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> 
>>
>>> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
>>> pretty well distributed around the world these days.
>>
>> I would be happy to add our nagios server to the monitoring mix. Just 
>> let us know what you would like us to monitor and who should be notified.
> 
> Just please don't put me onto your auto-page list again ... the last 
> time, I spent more time looking at false positives ... actually, they 
> were all false positives :(

We don't do ICMP monitoring anymore, nor do we do monitoring off that 
old network.

We only do service level monitoring and I was assuming they would get 
sent to different individuals based on what server it was.

J


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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 22:45 ` Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 23:17   ` Re: Gborg still down Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2006-04-22 08:01   ` Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Jim C. Nasby @ 2006-04-21 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:41:00PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
> pretty well distributed around the world these days.

Well, wherever they're hosted monitoring has been an issue for as long
as I can remember. Search not getting updated, list archives not
updated, sites down, etc.

If individuals hosting these various services aren't monitoring them
adequately then the project itself should be monitoring them. Plus
there's servers/services that I suspect won't get monitored very well by
their owners (mirrors come to mind...)
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Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 22:45 ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-21 23:17   ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-04-21 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:41:00PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
>> pretty well distributed around the world these days.
> 
> Well, wherever they're hosted monitoring has been an issue for as long
> as I can remember. Search not getting updated, list archives not
> updated, sites down, etc.

Well Search has been resolved as it was moved to us and has been kicking 
arse since then. Archives has not had any server side problems in longer 
then I can remember.

> If individuals hosting these various services aren't monitoring them
> adequately then the project itself should be monitoring them. Plus
> there's servers/services that I suspect won't get monitored very well by
> their owners (mirrors come to mind...)

It may be helpful to understand that a lot of the servers are mirrors 
(like archives) and even if archives is doing just fine the source for 
archives may be having problems (which has been the case).

Joshua D. Drake



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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 22:45 ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-22 08:01   ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-22 18:19     ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Dave Page @ 2006-04-22 08:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www




On 21/4/06 23:45, "Jim C. Nasby" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:41:00PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>> Most of the servers are not hosted by hub these days - we have them
>> pretty well distributed around the world these days.
> 
> Well, wherever they're hosted monitoring has been an issue for as long
> as I can remember. Search not getting updated, list archives not
> updated, sites down, etc.
> 
> If individuals hosting these various services aren't monitoring them
> adequately then the project itself should be monitoring them. Plus
> there's servers/services that I suspect won't get monitored very well by
> their owners (mirrors come to mind...)

As we already said, we do monitor them. However, we monitor that they are
running - ie. Do we get a response from Apache, ssh, rsyncd or whatever.
Checking whether the archives/search are serving up to date content would be
a whole other (difficult) problem altogether.

Regards, Dave




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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-21 19:41 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-21 22:45 ` Re: Gborg still down Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  2006-04-22 08:01   ` Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-22 18:19     ` Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Jim C. Nasby @ 2006-04-22 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 09:01:48AM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> As we already said, we do monitor them. However, we monitor that they are
> running - ie. Do we get a response from Apache, ssh, rsyncd or whatever.
> Checking whether the archives/search are serving up to date content would be
> a whole other (difficult) problem altogether.

ISTM it wouldn't be that difficult if whatever updated the archives
stuffed the current time in a file somewhere once it was finished...

BTW, lest it sound like I don't appreciate the work of everyone who
keeps the various sites up, I do. But it hurts our credibility everytime
someone can't get to one of our sites, or the archives are out of date,
or search doesn't work, etc., etc. I know there's been some big
improvements made recently; I'm just hoping that we can get monitoring
setup for everything that's currently not being monitored.
-- 
Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      [email protected]
Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf       cell: 512-569-9461




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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-22 19:18 Dave Page <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Dave Page @ 2006-04-22 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; [email protected]; +Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; pgsql-www


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jim C. Nasby"<[email protected]>
Sent: 22/04/06 19:20:03
To: "Dave Page"<[email protected]>
Cc: "Joshua D. Drake"<[email protected]>, "Magnus Hagander"<[email protected]>, "Marc G. Fournier"<[email protected]>, "[email protected]"<[email protected]>, "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Gborg still down

> ISTM it wouldn't be that difficult if whatever updated the archives
> stuffed the current time in a file somewhere once it was finished...

That would prove that the mhonarc script ran and the rsync to the webserver, but it wouldn't prove that messages on all lists were actually getting there in the first place, or subsequently being indexed for searching.

Still, it wouldn't hurt to start with the easier stuff...

Regards Dave




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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-24 15:09 Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Greg Sabino Mullane @ 2006-04-24 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www


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> As we already said, we do monitor them. However, we monitor that they are
> running - ie. Do we get a response from Apache, ssh, rsyncd or whatever.
> Checking whether the archives/search are serving up to date content would be
> a whole other (difficult) problem altogether.

Well, with regards to what started this whole thread, the cvs server on
gborg was completely down (e.g. not accepting connections) so that is one
service that should definitely be added. The web server itself was up, but
only displaying a "undergoing maintanence" message. It should be simple enough
to have the monitor script download the main page and make sure that a static
string is on the page (e.g. "Welcome to Gborg!"). I agree that the archive / search
is a whole 'nother matter. I'm willing to help out on any of it though if needed,
just point me in the right direction.

- --
Greg Sabino Mullane [email protected]
PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200604241106
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* Re: Gborg still down
@ 2006-04-25 08:31 Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2006-04-25 15:30 ` Re: Gborg still down Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread

From: Dave Page @ 2006-04-25 08:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg 
> Sabino Mullane
> Sent: 24 April 2006 16:09
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Gborg still down
> 
> 
> > As we already said, we do monitor them. However, we monitor 
> that they 
> > are running - ie. Do we get a response from Apache, ssh, 
> rsyncd or whatever.
> > Checking whether the archives/search are serving up to date content 
> > would be a whole other (difficult) problem altogether.
> 
> Well, with regards to what started this whole thread, the cvs 
> server on gborg was completely down (e.g. not accepting 
> connections) so that is one service that should definitely be 
> added. 

Done.

> The web server itself was up, but only displaying a 
> "undergoing maintanence" message. It should be simple enough 
> to have the monitor script download the main page and make 
> sure that a static string is on the page (e.g. "Welcome to 
> Gborg!"). I agree that the archive / search is a whole 
> 'nother matter. I'm willing to help out on any of it though 
> if needed, just point me in the right direction.

You're welcome to improve the nagios checks that we do at the moment if
you like. I can give you access to the server for that of course.

Regards, Dave.



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* Re: Gborg still down
  2006-04-25 08:31 Re: Gborg still down Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2006-04-25 15:30 ` Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread

From: Greg Sabino Mullane @ 2006-04-25 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; +Cc: pgsql-www


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> You're welcome to improve the nagios checks that we do at the moment if
> you like. I can give you access to the server for that of course.
  
Sure, I'd like to do that.

- --
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