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@ 2003-12-05 09:27 Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
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From: Devrim GUNDUZ @ 2003-12-05 09:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
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Hi,
I edited buildnews.php and buildevents.php to replace @ signs with " at "
(omitting the quotes) to avoid spam, as proposed by Christopher
Kings-Lynne. Dave, should it be committed to CVS?
I saw something on index.php; but I'm not sure that it works:
ereg_replace("@", "@", pg_result($rs, $x, "posted_by"))
Regards,
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Devrim GUNDUZ
[email protected] [email protected]
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
@ 2003-12-05 10:45 Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2003-12-05 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 05 December 2003 09:27
> To: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List
> Subject: [pgsql-www] Replacing @ with " at "
>
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> Hi,
>
> I edited buildnews.php and buildevents.php to replace @ signs
> with " at "
> (omitting the quotes) to avoid spam, as proposed by
> Christopher Kings-Lynne. Dave, should it be committed to CVS?
Thanks Devrim, commited.
> I saw something on index.php; but I'm not sure that it works:
>
> ereg_replace("@", "@", pg_result($rs, $x, "posted_by"))
That was done by Greg Sabino Mullane
Regards, Dave.
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-05 11:20 ` Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
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From: Devrim GUNDUZ @ 2003-12-05 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
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Hi,
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Dave Page wrote:
> > I saw something on index.php; but I'm not sure that it works:
> >
> > ereg_replace("@", "@", pg_result($rs, $x, "posted_by"))
>
> That was done by Greg Sabino Mullane
hmm. I've edited index.php, and it seems ok now.
http://www.postgresql.org/index.php
I've also edited news.php and event.php. Dave, could you please commit all
three files to CVS?
BTW: index.php and index.html are not in sync for hours. IS there a
problem?
Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ
[email protected] [email protected]
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-05 12:34 ` Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:43 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:55 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
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From: Robert Treat @ 2003-12-05 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Friday 05 December 2003 06:20, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Dave Page wrote:
> > > I saw something on index.php; but I'm not sure that it works:
> > >
> > > ereg_replace("@", "@", pg_result($rs, $x, "posted_by"))
> >
> > That was done by Greg Sabino Mullane
>
> hmm. I've edited index.php, and it seems ok now.
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/index.php
>
> I've also edited news.php and event.php. Dave, could you please commit all
> three files to CVS?
>
I have an issue with the way this was done. The email addresses were left as
links, but the links aren't valid (pops up in your email as foo at bar.com.
Theres a couple solutions to this:
1) Don't make the email address a link
2) make the mailto be a valid link, but the words on the page not
3) add a checkbox to the submit page to "obfuscate email", so that s/@/at, and
not a link, or we'll leave in @ and make it a link.
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-05 12:43 ` Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
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From: Devrim GUNDUZ @ 2003-12-05 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
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Hi,
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
> I have an issue with the way this was done. The email addresses were left as
> links, but the links aren't valid (pops up in your email as foo at bar.com.
> Theres a couple solutions to this:
>
> 1) Don't make the email address a link
This was what I was thinking now :) I vote for this one.
What do the other guys think? BTW, mailto links in event/news details does
not work.
Regards,
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Devrim GUNDUZ
[email protected] [email protected]
http://www.TDMSoft.com
http://www.gunduz.org
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-05 12:55 ` Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
2003-12-06 00:38 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
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From: Michael Glaesemann @ 2003-12-05 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 09:34 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
> Theres a couple solutions to this:
>
> 1) Don't make the email address a link
> 2) make the mailto be a valid link, but the words on the page not
> 3) add a checkbox to the submit page to "obfuscate email", so that
> s/@/at, and
> not a link, or we'll leave in @ and make it a link.
As for 2, if the mailto is literal text in the html, a spambot is going
to pick it up regardless—my guess is it's even more likely to pick up a
mailto: link than just a address elsewhere on the page. I know there
are ways of obfuscating the email address using Javascript (such as
Hiveware's Enkoder http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder.php for Mac OS X.
Pretty cool, as it even varies the Javascript so bots have more trouble
learning it. I know someone a lot smarter than me can figure out how to
turn this into a server-side solution, and I'm sure someone probably
already has.)
1 & 3 seem fine, though it would be nice of the mailto: worked as a
link.
Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:55 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-06 00:38 ` [email protected]
2003-12-06 01:13 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: [email protected] @ 2003-12-06 00:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
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> As for 2, if the mailto is literal text in the html, a spambot is going
> to pick it up regardless�my guess is it's even more likely to pick up a
> mailto: link than just a address elsewhere on the page. I know there
> are ways of obfuscating the email address using Javascript
Indeed:
http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/avoidance.html
Almost any change has an amazing rate of return: while a spambot can be
simply changed to pick up things like greg "at" turnstep.com, there
is so much low-hanging fruit around that few if any bother. Glad to
see this is finally being changed. But we need to remove the mailto
link and make it a simple text.
I will propose one final thing: changing press at postgresql.org to
something else, as that email is likely to get lots of spam for
many years to come at this point. :(
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Greg Sabino Mullane [email protected]
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:55 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
2003-12-06 00:38 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
@ 2003-12-06 01:13 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2003-12-08 03:21 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2003-12-06 01:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 [email protected] wrote:
> I will propose one final thing: changing press at postgresql.org to
> something else, as that email is likely to get lots of spam for many
> years to come at this point. :(
all the mailing lists are run through Spamassassin, which seems to trap
most of the garbage ... press@ doesn't get much dump'd into the moderators
mailbox ... 20 a week, maybe ...
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:55 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
2003-12-06 00:38 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
2003-12-06 01:13 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2003-12-08 03:21 ` [email protected]
2003-12-08 05:42 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: [email protected] @ 2003-12-08 03:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
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>> I will propose one final thing: changing press at postgresql.org to
>> something else, as that email is likely to get lots of spam for many
>> years to come at this point. :(
> all the mailing lists are run through Spamassassin, which seems to trap
> most of the garbage ... press@ doesn't get much dump'd into the moderators
> mailbox ... 20 a week, maybe ...
I am not sure I understand the point here. Are you saying that all those posts
to the press email are ones that have slipped through the spamassassin filter?
Whatever the system that is in place, the press list is currently overrun with
spam - I did a quick count and got a ratio of about 100 spams for every couple
of real messages. If we were to change the email address to "contact" and not
publish that on the main web page, I am sure that ratio would decrease
dramatically.
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Greg Sabino Mullane [email protected]
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
2003-12-05 10:45 Re: Replacing @ with " at " Dave Page <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:34 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2003-12-05 12:55 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
2003-12-06 00:38 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
2003-12-06 01:13 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2003-12-08 03:21 ` Re: Replacing @ with " at " [email protected]
@ 2003-12-08 05:42 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2003-12-08 05:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 [email protected] wrote:
> I am not sure I understand the point here. Are you saying that all those
> posts to the press email are ones that have slipped through the
> spamassassin filter? Whatever the system that is in place, the press
> list is currently overrun with spam - I did a quick count and got a
> ratio of about 100 spams for every couple of real messages. If we were
> to change the email address to "contact" and not publish that on the
> main web page, I am sure that ratio would decrease dramatically.
Huh? I'm on the press@ mailing list, and I see an occasional posting to
it, but that is it ... ah, shit, that would explain it ... My anti-spam
filter is cleaning them out ... will take a look at why the ones
"pre-list" aren't picking it out this week ...
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: Replacing @ with " at "
@ 2003-12-05 11:46 Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2003-12-05 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devrim GUNDUZ <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 05 December 2003 11:21
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Replacing @ with " at "
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > > I saw something on index.php; but I'm not sure that it works:
> > >
> > > ereg_replace("@", "@", pg_result($rs, $x, "posted_by"))
> >
> > That was done by Greg Sabino Mullane
>
> hmm. I've edited index.php, and it seems ok now.
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/index.php
>
> I've also edited news.php and event.php. Dave, could you
> please commit all three files to CVS?
Thanks, committed.
> BTW: index.php and index.html are not in sync for hours. IS
> there a problem?
I just ran it manually and it went OK.
BTW; I have now added a build/buildpage script to rebuild just a single
page.
Usage:
$ build/buildpage /index
Unless you are root it'll fail to do the chown at the end, but it should
build OK.
Regards, Dave.
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