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* Upgraded Site..any news ?
@ 2004-02-26 20:31 David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
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From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Hello Everyone,
Just curious, is there any progress with the upgraded site proposed by
Alexey with the correct mirror redirection et all ?
Another suggestion, wouldn't be worth to change the look and feel for
http://store.pgsql.com/ ?
I am pretty done with the gborg, main news, events feeds. Next step
could be some of the mailing lists.
Ta muchly
David
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 20:31 Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 20:48 ` Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:52 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Borzov @ 2004-02-26 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Hi!
David Costa wrote:
> Just curious, is there any progress with the upgraded site proposed by
> Alexey with the correct mirror redirection et all ?
Er, the site was kinda uploaded to http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/ but
Marc had some problems setting up mod_rewrite for this and thus it does not
quite work unless you call system/handler.php directly:
http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php
Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for cleaner gettext()
management and produce a clean patch for the current CVS version of 'portal'.
There are some problems now, like me being employed in a project and a harddrive
crash, but I hope to continue work this weekend/next week.
Hopefully Marc will be able to fix mod_rewrite, too.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 20:31 Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 20:52 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:28 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Feb 26, 2004, at 9:48 PM, Alexey Borzov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> David Costa wrote:
>> Just curious, is there any progress with the upgraded site proposed
>> by Alexey with the correct mirror redirection et all ?
>
> Er, the site was kinda uploaded to
> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/ but Marc had some problems
> setting up mod_rewrite for this and thus it does not quite work unless
> you call system/handler.php directly:
> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php
I see, I was interested in the downloads redirection but doesn't work
yet. I guess the other main change on that page is localization right ?
>
> Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for cleaner
> gettext() management and produce a clean patch for the current CVS
> version of 'portal'. There are some problems now, like me being
> employed in a project and a harddrive crash, but I hope to continue
> work this weekend/next week.
>
No problem, let me know if you need some help. BTW you worked on
HTTP_Quickform right ? It rocks big time.
> Hopefully Marc will be able to fix mod_rewrite, too.
>
Not sure why you need that but I am sure there is a good reason :D
>
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 20:31 Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:52 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 21:28 ` Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:44 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Borzov @ 2004-02-26 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Hi!
David Costa wrote:
>>> Just curious, is there any progress with the upgraded site proposed
>>> by Alexey with the correct mirror redirection et all ?
>>
>>
>> Er, the site was kinda uploaded to
>> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/ but Marc had some problems
>> setting up mod_rewrite for this and thus it does not quite work unless
>> you call system/handler.php directly:
>> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php
>
> I see, I was interested in the downloads redirection but doesn't work
> yet.
You mean the "closest mirrors" thing? It kinda works:
http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php?page=download
> I guess the other main change on that page is localization right ?
Yes. Index page in Russian:
http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php?page=index&lang=ru
>> Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for cleaner
>> gettext() management and produce a clean patch for the current CVS
>> version of 'portal'. There are some problems now, like me being
>> employed in a project and a harddrive crash, but I hope to continue
>> work this weekend/next week.
>
> No problem, let me know if you need some help.
I'll probably need some help after the cleaner patch will be in CVS. I'll post
the info in the maillist.
> BTW you worked on HTTP_Quickform right ? It rocks big time.
It is HTML_QuickForm, not HTTP. ;
I was going to use it for form handling on the site, that's good that you know it.
>> Hopefully Marc will be able to fix mod_rewrite, too.
>
> Not sure why you need that but I am sure there is a good reason :D
The whole (dynamic) site is dispatched through system/handler.php script,
mod_rewrite is used to redirect "virtual" pages to it.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 20:31 Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:52 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:28 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 21:44 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:54 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Feb 26, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Alexey Borzov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> David Costa wrote:
>>>> Just curious, is there any progress with the upgraded site proposed
>>>> by Alexey with the correct mirror redirection et all ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Er, the site was kinda uploaded to
>>> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/ but Marc had some problems
>>> setting up mod_rewrite for this and thus it does not quite work
>>> unless you call system/handler.php directly:
>>> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php
>> I see, I was interested in the downloads redirection but doesn't work
>> yet.
>
> You mean the "closest mirrors" thing? It kinda works:
> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php?page=download
very sweet
>
>> I guess the other main change on that page is localization right ?
>
> Yes. Index page in Russian:
> http://www.alexey.beta.postgresql.org/system/handler.php?
> page=index&lang=ru
very nice, kudos
>>
>
> I'll probably need some help after the cleaner patch will be in CVS.
> I'll post the info in the maillist.
>
>> BTW you worked on HTTP_Quickform right ? It rocks big time.
>
> It is HTML_QuickForm, not HTTP. ;
>
Sorry, It was a long day and I am trying to fix some bugs on
HTTP-upload.
I started to use html-form few weeks ago and I am writing a short
article about it.
> I was going to use it for form handling on the site, that's good that
> you know it.
>
>>> Hopefully Marc will be able to fix mod_rewrite, too.
>> Not sure why you need that but I am sure there is a good reason :D
>
> The whole (dynamic) site is dispatched through system/handler.php
> script, mod_rewrite is used to redirect "virtual" pages to it.
>
Great, thanks again for your contribution.
>
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 20:31 Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 20:52 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:28 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 21:44 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 21:54 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
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From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
>>
>> It is HTML_QuickForm, not HTTP. ;
>>
> Sorry, It was a long day and I am trying to fix some bugs on
> HTTP-upload.
> I started to use html-form few weeks ago and I am writing a short
> article about it.
OMG Twice :D I meant HTML_QuickForm..not the simple html-form :)
sorry ..
David
>
>> I was going to use it for form handling on the site, that's good that
>> you know it.
>>
>>>> Hopefully Marc will be able to fix mod_rewrite, too.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
@ 2004-02-26 22:30 Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2004-02-26 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Borzov [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 20:49
> To: David Costa
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Upgraded Site..any news ?
>
> Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for
> cleaner gettext() management and produce a clean patch for
> the current CVS version of 'portal'.
Watch the licence there - we publish the website code under BSD...
Regards, Dave.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-28 15:48 ` Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Alexey Borzov @ 2004-02-28 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Hi!
Dave Page wrote:
>>Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for
>>cleaner gettext() management and produce a clean patch for
>>the current CVS version of 'portal'.
>
> Watch the licence there - we publish the website code under BSD...
Horde is under LGPL. I am not a license guru, so please tell me whether
it is OK to use parts of it.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-28 15:56 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 23:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2004-02-28 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Alexey Borzov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Dave Page wrote:
> >>Meanwhile I was going to borrow some code from Horde for
> >>cleaner gettext() management and produce a clean patch for
> >>the current CVS version of 'portal'.
> >
> > Watch the licence there - we publish the website code under BSD...
>
> Horde is under LGPL. I am not a license guru, so please tell me whether
> it is OK to use parts of it.
It is not. LGPL requires that any changes we make be published, and we
currently don't have that resetriction with our BSD license.
--
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-28 23:59 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:24 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Robert Treat <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Costa @ 2004-02-28 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Feb 28, 2004, at 4:56 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Alexey Borzov wrote:
>>
>> Horde is under LGPL. I am not a license guru, so please tell me
>> whether
>> it is OK to use parts of it.
>
> It is not. LGPL requires that any changes we make be published, and we
> currently don't have that resetriction with our BSD license.
I am not 100% sure but, if you need a class (e.g. a php pear class)
which is released under e.g. php license you can certainly use it
regardless of what your license policy is unless you plan to modify it
and redistribute it under a difference license.
The same would apply for a CPAN module, there are released under
artistic license isn't it ?
If we take a class and extend it that should just be as fine as we are
using it. What exactly are you planning to use from Horde?
the mirror ip to country is a rather basic script (if you use the same
one used at php.net) and doesn't even need a class as far as I know..
http://www.php.net/source.php?url=/my.php )
>
Regards,
David Costa, PostgreSQL Advocate
david at postgresql ddoot org gurugeek att php dot net
$dsn = 'pgsql://world:most_advanced@localhost/open_source_database';
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 23:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-03-01 04:24 ` Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:31 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Robert Treat @ 2004-03-01 04:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Saturday 28 February 2004 18:59, David Costa wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2004, at 4:56 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Alexey Borzov wrote:
> >> Horde is under LGPL. I am not a license guru, so please tell me
> >> whether
> >> it is OK to use parts of it.
> >
> > It is not. LGPL requires that any changes we make be published, and we
> > currently don't have that resetriction with our BSD license.
>
> I am not 100% sure but, if you need a class (e.g. a php pear class)
> which is released under e.g. php license you can certainly use it
> regardless of what your license policy is unless you plan to modify it
> and redistribute it under a difference license.
>
> The same would apply for a CPAN module, there are released under
> artistic license isn't it ?
>
> If we take a class and extend it that should just be as fine as we are
> using it. What exactly are you planning to use from Horde?
> the mirror ip to country is a rather basic script (if you use the same
> one used at php.net) and doesn't even need a class as far as I know..
> http://www.php.net/source.php?url=/my.php )
>
The problem is that if we modify these classes/packages and then make them a
part of our source tree, we are bound by whatever license terms the packages
come with. Since we offer our code as BSD, we cannot include code that would
restrict our ability to license the web code under BSD. We can use the lgpl
classes provided in PEAR so long as it's not required the code be put into
our source tree, but lifting code from one of these and including it in our
code is not acceptable.
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 23:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:24 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Robert Treat <[email protected]>
@ 2004-03-01 04:31 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 21:08 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Costa @ 2004-03-01 04:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Mar 1, 2004, at 5:24 AM, Robert Treat wrote:
>>
>
> The problem is that if we modify these classes/packages and then make
> them a
> part of our source tree, we are bound by whatever license terms the
> packages
> come with. Since we offer our code as BSD, we cannot include code
> that would
> restrict our ability to license the web code under BSD. We can use
> the lgpl
> classes provided in PEAR so long as it's not required the code be put
> into
> our source tree, but lifting code from one of these and including it
> in our
> code is not acceptable.
Fine, thanks for the clarification. Just for the sake of transparency
I am working on my own code implementation for the IP2country on
postgresql mirrors,
nothing borrowed from horde to avoid any possible trouble. I will
upload on my beta space as soon as possible.
It should be fine as pear classes are not part of the source three as
these are only in the include dir (which is outside of the three).
I will not modify any existing pear class.
BTW Pear classes are released under PHP license, this should be
different then LGPL isn't it ?
Cheers
David
>
> Robert Treat
> --
> Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 23:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:24 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:31 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-03-01 21:08 ` Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 21:22 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Borzov @ 2004-03-01 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Hi!
David Costa wrote:
> Fine, thanks for the clarification. Just for the sake of transparency I
> am working on my own code implementation for the IP2country on
> postgresql mirrors,
> nothing borrowed from horde to avoid any possible trouble. I will upload
> on my beta space as soon as possible.
Current implementation of ip2country in portal was written by Andreas, I didn't
change it at all. I don't think there can be problems with that.
I wanted to borrow some code (Lang class, to be exact) for handling *gettext*
issues.
> It should be fine as pear classes are not part of the source three as
> these are only in the include dir (which is outside of the three).
> I will not modify any existing pear class.
>
> BTW Pear classes are released under PHP license, this should be
> different then LGPL isn't it ?
Different PEAR classes are released under different licenses, AFAIK there exist
BSD and LGPL licensed ones.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:30 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:48 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 15:56 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 23:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:24 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Robert Treat <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:31 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 21:08 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>
@ 2004-03-01 21:22 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
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From: David Costa @ 2004-03-01 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Alexey Borzov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> David Costa wrote:
>> Fine, thanks for the clarification. Just for the sake of transparency
>> I am working on my own code implementation for the IP2country on
>> postgresql mirrors,
>> nothing borrowed from horde to avoid any possible trouble. I will
>> upload on my beta space as soon as possible.
>
> Current implementation of ip2country in portal was written by Andreas,
> I didn't change it at all. I don't think there can be problems with
> that.
Well, AFAIK is not available at the moment so if I find the time I will
try to code it up in the upcoming days :D
>
> I wanted to borrow some code (Lang class, to be exact) for handling
> *gettext* issues.
>
>> It should be fine as pear classes are not part of the source three as
>> these are only in the include dir (which is outside of the three).
>> I will not modify any existing pear class.
>> BTW Pear classes are released under PHP license, this should be
>> different then LGPL isn't it ?
>
> Different PEAR classes are released under different licenses, AFAIK
> there exist BSD and LGPL licensed ones.
>
yes well using a class is possible regardless of its license as it will
not be part of the source three.
I checked your beta, very nice, that said I would not recommend using a
template system aka smarty or any pear template. It will tie the
website development to the development/API of that specific class and
to me, is not good.
Cheers
David
>
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
@ 2004-02-26 22:31 Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2004-02-26 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Costa [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 20:31
> To: Alexey Borzov; [email protected]
> Subject: [pgsql-www] Upgraded Site..any news ?
>
>
> Another suggestion, wouldn't be worth to change the look and
> feel for http://store.pgsql.com/ ?
We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why we
link directly to it from every page).
Regards, Dave.
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 22:37 ` Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 18:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2004-02-26 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; David Costa <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Dave,
> We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why we
> link directly to it from every page).
Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're supposed to get 20% of
each sale.
--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 22:45 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:49 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 19:02 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Feb 26, 2004, at 11:37 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Dave,
>
>> We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why we
>> link directly to it from every page).
>
> Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're supposed to get
> 20% of
> each sale.
Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more appealing.
Some ideas
(just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
good..)
It could be worth to outsource it, as apache does with jinx
http://www.jinxhackwear.com/scripts/products.asp?affid=16&catID=-1
We could also add some Donation buttons/links like apache does. It
would be fairly simple via paypal and I think people would do that.
At least, I will ;)
Cheers
David
>
> --
> -Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 22:49 ` Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:58 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 19:04 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2004-02-26 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
David,
> Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more appealing.
> Some ideas
> (just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
> good..)
Actually, it was supposed to be outsourced to CafePress. Marc?
--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:49 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-26 22:58 ` David Costa <[email protected]>
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From: David Costa @ 2004-02-26 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Feb 26, 2004, at 11:49 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> David,
>
>> Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more
>> appealing.
>> Some ideas
>> (just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
>> good..)
>
> Actually, it was supposed to be outsourced to CafePress. Marc?
That is another great way to do it. Cafepress offers also CD's and
they do take care of the design et all.
And they do have a lot of items :)
>
> --
> -Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:49 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-27 19:04 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-27 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: David Costa <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
> David,
>
> > Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more appealing.
> > Some ideas
> > (just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
> > good..)
>
> Actually, it was supposed to be outsourced to CafePress. Marc?
*rofl* then Robert came at me with the Jinx stuff ... I have the
CafePress account stuff setup, but not sure where Robert went with the
Jinx, as both of us got really busy and it all got side-tracked ...
I'll work on finishing the CafePress stuff this weekend, and post the link
here so that others can see / comment ... I have to fix those images based
on Dave's comments, and clean up the font on the text ... shouldn't take
me long to complete ...
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-27 19:02 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2004-03-01 04:17 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Robert Treat <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-27 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, David Costa wrote:
> Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more appealing.
> Some ideas
> (just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
> good..)
> It could be worth to outsource it, as apache does with jinx
> http://www.jinxhackwear.com/scripts/products.asp?affid=16&catID=-1
> We could also add some Donation buttons/links like apache does. It
> would be fairly simple via paypal and I think people would do that.
> At least, I will ;)
I think it was Jinx that Robert was looking at ... I had also looked at
Cafeexpress(sp?), which is another one that does it ... the conversation
that Robert and I had about it kinda died when I think we both got busy,
but the nice thing about doing it through either of those is they have *a
helluva lot* of selection, without us having the major overhead of getting
stuff pre-printed and hoping it will go ...
Robert, any status on that side of things?
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:45 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? David Costa <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 19:02 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2004-03-01 04:17 ` Robert Treat <[email protected]>
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From: Robert Treat @ 2004-03-01 04:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; David Costa <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Friday 27 February 2004 14:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, David Costa wrote:
> > Then they might consider adding caps or making it a bit more appealing.
> > Some ideas
> > (just thinking loud, I am not saying that what is there now is not
> > good..)
> > It could be worth to outsource it, as apache does with jinx
> > http://www.jinxhackwear.com/scripts/products.asp?affid=16&catID=-1
> > We could also add some Donation buttons/links like apache does. It
> > would be fairly simple via paypal and I think people would do that.
> > At least, I will ;)
>
> I think it was Jinx that Robert was looking at ... I had also looked at
> Cafeexpress(sp?), which is another one that does it ... the conversation
> that Robert and I had about it kinda died when I think we both got busy,
> but the nice thing about doing it through either of those is they have *a
> helluva lot* of selection, without us having the major overhead of getting
> stuff pre-printed and hoping it will go ...
>
> Robert, any status on that side of things?
>
Woops... forgot I needed to respond to this. We looked at jinx in the context
of mass producing t-shirts for use at conferences, and it didnt seem right
for that task. We didn't really look into to much for a complete solution,
though it seems it would be adequate based on some of the other sites that
use them.
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-27 18:59 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 08:38 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-27 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; David Costa <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Dave,
>
> > We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why we
> > link directly to it from every page).
>
> Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're supposed to get 20% of
> each sale.
Which, for almost the past year, have been close to zero ... David is
right, in that the site just plain sucks ... I'm a programmer, and it
definitely :(
David, if you want to propose a new front end to it, I know I'd definitely
not argue against it ... :)
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 18:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-28 08:38 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 18:01 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2004-02-28 08:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; pgsql-www
It's rumoured that Marc G. Fournier once said:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> > We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why
>> > we link directly to it from every page).
>>
>> Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're supposed to get
>> 20% of each sale.
>
> Which, for almost the past year, have been close to zero ... David is
> right, in that the site just plain sucks ... I'm a programmer, and it
> definitely :(
>
> David, if you want to propose a new front end to it, I know I'd
> definitely not argue against it ... :)
What's wrong with the Cafe Press one? The only issue we had there iirc, is
that one of us didn't like the font on some of the merchandise <grin>
/D
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* Re: Upgraded Site..any news ?
2004-02-26 22:31 Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2004-02-26 22:37 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2004-02-27 18:59 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2004-02-28 08:38 ` Re: Upgraded Site..any news ? Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2004-02-28 18:01 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-28 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; pgsql-www
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> It's rumoured that Marc G. Fournier once said:
> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
> >
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> > We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me wonder why
> >> > we link directly to it from every page).
> >>
> >> Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're supposed to get
> >> 20% of each sale.
> >
> > Which, for almost the past year, have been close to zero ... David is
> > right, in that the site just plain sucks ... I'm a programmer, and it
> > definitely :(
> >
> > David, if you want to propose a new front end to it, I know I'd
> > definitely not argue against it ... :)
>
> What's wrong with the Cafe Press one? The only issue we had there iirc, is
> that one of us didn't like the font on some of the merchandise <grin>
Yup, working on fixing that up this afternoon ... or, at least, this
weekend, depending on how many emergencies pop up :)
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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@ 2004-02-26 22:45 Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2004-02-26 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; David Costa <[email protected]>; Alexey Borzov <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 26 February 2004 22:38
> To: Dave Page; David Costa; Alexey Borzov; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Upgraded Site..any news ?
>
> Dave,
>
> > We don't own it. PostgreSQL Inc. do (which does make me
> wonder why we
> > link directly to it from every page).
>
> Well, in theory, they run it for our benefit. We're
> supposed to get 20% of
> each sale.
We do? That's OK then.
Regards, Dave.
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