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* pgsql-announce not being delivered?
@ 2007-02-05 22:24 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-05 22:37 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2007-02-05 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
All,
I just took a brief survey on IRC and found that 70% of the people there
didn't get the release announcement. I didn't get it, nor PWN either.
For that matter, I haven't gotten anything on -announce since December.
It could be spam filtering issues, but if so they're quite widespread; it
seems that most of our community is not getting most of the -announce
posts. Any idea how to diagnose this?
--
--Josh
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-05 22:37 ` Tom Lane <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 08:52 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2007-02-05 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; +Cc: pgsql-www
Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
> I just took a brief survey on IRC and found that 70% of the people there
> didn't get the release announcement. I didn't get it, nor PWN either.
> For that matter, I haven't gotten anything on -announce since December.
FWIW, it took almost 2 hours to come through to me --- see attached
headers. The delay seems entirely the fault of the postgresql.org to
mx1.hub.org hop. Dunno if that helps diagnose anything.
regards, tom lane
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-05 22:37 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 08:52 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 15:16 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2007-02-06 08:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 05:37:23PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
> > I just took a brief survey on IRC and found that 70% of the people there
> > didn't get the release announcement. I didn't get it, nor PWN either.
> > For that matter, I haven't gotten anything on -announce since December.
>
> FWIW, it took almost 2 hours to come through to me --- see attached
> headers. The delay seems entirely the fault of the postgresql.org to
> mx1.hub.org hop. Dunno if that helps diagnose anything.
This is not uncommon at all - it happens all the time. Not just for
-announce, happens for all the lists. Has been reported many times
before.
//Magnus
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-05 22:37 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 08:52 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 15:16 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2007-02-06 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www
Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 05:37:23PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
>>> I just took a brief survey on IRC and found that 70% of the people there
>>> didn't get the release announcement. I didn't get it, nor PWN either.
>>> For that matter, I haven't gotten anything on -announce since December.
>> FWIW, it took almost 2 hours to come through to me --- see attached
>> headers. The delay seems entirely the fault of the postgresql.org to
>> mx1.hub.org hop. Dunno if that helps diagnose anything.
>
> This is not uncommon at all - it happens all the time. Not just for
> -announce, happens for all the lists. Has been reported many times
> before.
It has also been complained about on multiple occassions by many
different people.
Joshua D. Drake
>
> //Magnus
>
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 02:45 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:06 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2007-02-06 02:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; pgsql-www
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I've been working on this this evening, and am talking to Michael (majordmo
developer) about it ...
I *think* I've narrowed down the problem, and implemented improvements for it,
but am waiting to hear back from Michael as to whether there are some sort of
'stats' that record # of recipients actually sent to ...
But, I am in the process of diagnosing it ...
Just curious, but "haven't gotten anything since December", and you are just
mentioning it now ... ?
Can you resend the announce you sent this morning ... ? I hate to have it sent
out twice, but its important enough, and I believe that I've corrected the
major problem causing the failed delivery, and would rather not have to wait
until the next announce goes out ...
- --On Monday, February 05, 2007 14:24:48 -0800 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
wrote:
> All,
>
> I just took a brief survey on IRC and found that 70% of the people there
> didn't get the release announcement. I didn't get it, nor PWN either.
> For that matter, I haven't gotten anything on -announce since December.
>
> It could be spam filtering issues, but if so they're quite widespread; it
> seems that most of our community is not getting most of the -announce
> posts. Any idea how to diagnose this?
>
> --
> --Josh
>
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL @ Sun
> San Francisco
- ----
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 03:06 ` Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:11 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:35 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Josh Berkus @ 2007-02-06 03:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Marc,
> Can you resend the announce you sent this morning ... ? I hate to have it
> sent out twice, but its important enough, and I believe that I've corrected
> the major problem causing the failed delivery, and would rather not have to
> wait until the next announce goes out ...
Well, that worked, but it somehow also "unstuck" the previous message. So a
lot of people are about to get 2 copies of the release, and I'm about to get
a lot of annoyed e-mail. Oh, well, at least it's working now.
Possibly related: previously I was getting the false "duplicate posting"
messages. I'm not getting them now.
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:06 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 03:11 ` Tom Lane <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:36 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 08:40 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Dave Page <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tom Lane @ 2007-02-06 03:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
> Well, that worked, but it somehow also "unstuck" the previous message.
A bunch of other recent pgsql-announce messages seem to have come
"unstuck" too ...
regards, tom lane
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:06 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:11 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 03:36 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2007-02-06 03:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
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- --On Monday, February 05, 2007 22:11:37 -0500 Tom Lane <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
>> Well, that worked, but it somehow also "unstuck" the previous message.
>
> A bunch of other recent pgsql-announce messages seem to have come
> "unstuck" too ...
There were three that I approved:
Announce from Josh
PWN
Announce about ht://Dig + PostgreSQL 8.2.2 ...
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:06 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:11 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Tom Lane <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 08:40 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2007-02-06 08:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <[email protected]> writes:
>> Well, that worked, but it somehow also "unstuck" the previous message.
>
> A bunch of other recent pgsql-announce messages seem to have come
> "unstuck" too ...
I got a whole heap of other messages from days gone by on various lists.
I wonder if Marc just found the missing posts problem people have
reported on and off for a while.
Regards, Dave.
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* Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered?
2007-02-05 22:24 pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 02:45 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2007-02-06 03:06 ` Re: pgsql-announce not being delivered? Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
@ 2007-02-06 03:35 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2007-02-06 03:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
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- --On Monday, February 05, 2007 19:06:06 -0800 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Marc,
>
>> Can you resend the announce you sent this morning ... ? I hate to have it
>> sent out twice, but its important enough, and I believe that I've corrected
>> the major problem causing the failed delivery, and would rather not have to
>> wait until the next announce goes out ...
>
> Well, that worked, but it somehow also "unstuck" the previous message. So a
> lot of people are about to get 2 copies of the release, and I'm about to get
> a lot of annoyed e-mail. Oh, well, at least it's working now.
>
> Possibly related: previously I was getting the false "duplicate posting"
> messages. I'm not getting them now.
Ya, any 'duplicate postings' get held by moderator ... that 'unstuck' one was
me, figuring that it would be faster to pass that one through ... thought I had
sent you a 'found a copy' message fast enough to avoid you resending :( sorry
about that ...
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Email . [email protected] MSN . [email protected]
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