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@ 2005-12-02 23:28 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2005-12-02 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
Folks,
While we discuss on the *other list* the business requirements for a
Postgres KB, it would be really helpful to get together on *this* list a
document giving the requirements for projects to be incorporated into the
PostgreSQL.org web infrastructure. Such a document would be very helpful,
as well, to others wanting to add things to the web site.
--
--Josh
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* Re: Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2
@ 2005-12-03 08:21 Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2005-12-03 08:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; pgsql-www
Well, just to start throwing ideas around;
- Moving data; originally we'd looked at exporting from the cms into the filesystem, and having script that did a cvs add/remove/commit over the entire tree, into the main web CVS. This is still preferrable from an 'ease of rebuilding' point of view, but might be easier just to rsync the content from the filesystem of the cms machine to wwwmaster.
- Data format; pages should probably be in our standard template-style XML.
- Navigation; Gevik was working on a tree-style thingy in PHP. Perhaps the CMS could export an XML file describing the navigation tree, which the PHP handler on the main website could use to generate it's treeview in dynamic mode. By accepting some sort of pointer to the currently selected node as a GET value, we should be able to make the tree fully mirrorable.
Thoughts?
/D
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Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2
Folks,
While we discuss on the *other list* the business requirements for a
Postgres KB, it would be really helpful to get together on *this* list a
document giving the requirements for projects to be incorporated into the
PostgreSQL.org web infrastructure. Such a document would be very helpful,
as well, to others wanting to add things to the web site.
--
--Josh
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* Re: Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2
@ 2005-12-03 17:35 Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2005-12-04 01:24 ` Re: Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2005-12-03 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]; pgsql-www
> While we discuss on the *other list* the business
> requirements for a Postgres KB, it would be really helpful to
> get together on *this* list a document giving the
> requirements for projects to be incorporated into the
> PostgreSQL.org web infrastructure. Such a document would be
> very helpful, as well, to others wanting to add things to the
> web site.
Josh, you are doing this backwards. You said it yourself in another
mail, start with the *functinoal requirements*.
At this point, the integration requirements should be "work directly in
the current website without any other product". If this cannot be done,
then we need to look at other products. But we cannot answer this
question until we have the functional specification.
My suggestion therefor - write a functional specification *completely
without considering what technical issues might show up with either
one*, and then we take it from there. And consider doing this on a more
"diplomatic" place than a technical mailinglist for a different project.
One quick comment on Daves mail:
> - Moving data; originally we'd looked at exporting from the
> cms into the filesystem, and having script that did a cvs
> add/remove/commit over the entire tree, into the main web
> CVS. This is still preferrable from an 'ease of rebuilding'
> point of view, but might be easier just to rsync the content
> from the filesystem of the cms machine to wwwmaster.
I think long-term, just dumping the files over is not a managable idea
unless we have corporate committment for maintaining the backend.
Because sure, the website will work, but if the backend goes down nobody
will be able to use any of these uber-cool KB functions that's the whole
reason it exists. It's more like a stop-gap solution.
(Bottom line, of course, I still think this should be *actually
integrated* in the main website, and not just copied over from somewhere
else. If possible. Again, see above point, it's way to early to actually
comment on that now if the project is run that way.)
//Magnus
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* Re: Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB
2005-12-03 17:35 Re: Integration Requirements WAS: Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2 Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2005-12-04 01:24 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-12-04 01:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www
The only comment I have is that I hope those who want a knowledge base
realize it is a huge job, and requires people with technical knowledge.
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > While we discuss on the *other list* the business
> > requirements for a Postgres KB, it would be really helpful to
> > get together on *this* list a document giving the
> > requirements for projects to be incorporated into the
> > PostgreSQL.org web infrastructure. Such a document would be
> > very helpful, as well, to others wanting to add things to the
> > web site.
>
> Josh, you are doing this backwards. You said it yourself in another
> mail, start with the *functinoal requirements*.
>
> At this point, the integration requirements should be "work directly in
> the current website without any other product". If this cannot be done,
> then we need to look at other products. But we cannot answer this
> question until we have the functional specification.
>
> My suggestion therefor - write a functional specification *completely
> without considering what technical issues might show up with either
> one*, and then we take it from there. And consider doing this on a more
> "diplomatic" place than a technical mailinglist for a different project.
>
>
> One quick comment on Daves mail:
> > - Moving data; originally we'd looked at exporting from the
> > cms into the filesystem, and having script that did a cvs
> > add/remove/commit over the entire tree, into the main web
> > CVS. This is still preferrable from an 'ease of rebuilding'
> > point of view, but might be easier just to rsync the content
> > from the filesystem of the cms machine to wwwmaster.
>
> I think long-term, just dumping the files over is not a managable idea
> unless we have corporate committment for maintaining the backend.
> Because sure, the website will work, but if the backend goes down nobody
> will be able to use any of these uber-cool KB functions that's the whole
> reason it exists. It's more like a stop-gap solution.
>
> (Bottom line, of course, I still think this should be *actually
> integrated* in the main website, and not just copied over from somewhere
> else. If possible. Again, see above point, it's way to early to actually
> comment on that now if the project is run that way.)
>
>
> //Magnus
>
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