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* Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
@ 2005-11-17 10:24 [email protected]
  2005-11-17 10:29 ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
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From: [email protected] @ 2005-11-17 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

Is it on my pc or the http://www.postgresql.org/about/ is broken?
I only get "<div id="pgContainerWr"




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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
  2005-11-17 10:24 Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ [email protected]
@ 2005-11-17 10:29 ` Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
  2005-11-17 15:52   ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>
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From: Michael Glaesemann @ 2005-11-17 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; +Cc: pgsql-www


On Nov 17, 2005, at 19:24 , [email protected] wrote:

> Is it on my pc or the http://www.postgresql.org/about/ is broken?
> I only get "<div id="pgContainerWr"


Works fine from here.


Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com






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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
  2005-11-17 10:24 Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ [email protected]
  2005-11-17 10:29 ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
@ 2005-11-17 15:52   ` Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>
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From: Michael Fuhr @ 2005-11-17 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 07:29:31PM +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2005, at 19:24 , [email protected] wrote:
> >Is it on my pc or the http://www.postgresql.org/about/ is broken?
> >I only get "<div id="pgContainerWr"
> 
> Works fine from here.

Here too.  I suspect it's more than coincidence that the indicated
text ends exactly 1024 bytes into the content.

% curl http://www.postgresql.org/about/ | hd
[...]
000003e0  3c 62 6f 64 79 3e 0a 20  20 20 3c 64 69 76 20 69  |<body>.   <div i|
000003f0  64 3d 22 70 67 43 6f 6e  74 61 69 6e 65 72 57 72  |d="pgContainerWr|
00000400  61 70 22 3e 0a 20 20 20  20 3c 64 69 76 20 69 64  |ap">.    <div id|
[...]

-- 
Michael Fuhr




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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
@ 2005-11-17 10:28 Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2005-11-17 16:12 ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Robert Treat <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2005-11-17 10:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; pgsql-www

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: 17 November 2005 10:25
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [pgsql-www] Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
> 
> Is it on my pc or the http://www.postgresql.org/about/ is broken?
> I only get "<div id="pgContainerWr"

Hmm, looks OK to me in IE and FF. Perhaps you had a bad transfer that
got cached?

BTW, how goes the form submission verification?

Regards, Dave.



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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
  2005-11-17 10:28 Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2005-11-17 16:12 ` Robert Treat <[email protected]>
  2005-11-17 16:24   ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>
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From: Robert Treat @ 2005-11-17 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 05:28, Dave Page wrote:
> BTW, how goes the form submission verification?
> 

I heard an interesting twist on this... rather than doing image
verification, you instead reject submissions that come from page that
don't contain a postgresql.org refferrer on the submission page. The
idea being the spam bots post directly to the submission page, but users
navigate thier way into the page. simple (and transparent to the user)
but apparently very effective for some folks that have implemented it. 

Robert Treat
-- 
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL




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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
  2005-11-17 10:28 Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Dave Page <[email protected]>
  2005-11-17 16:12 ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Robert Treat <[email protected]>
@ 2005-11-17 16:24   ` Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>
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From: Michael Fuhr @ 2005-11-17 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 11:12:24AM -0500, Robert Treat wrote:
> I heard an interesting twist on this... rather than doing image
> verification, you instead reject submissions that come from page that
> don't contain a postgresql.org refferrer on the submission page. The
> idea being the spam bots post directly to the submission page, but users
> navigate thier way into the page. simple (and transparent to the user)
> but apparently very effective for some folks that have implemented it. 

It's also very broken for people who don't send Referer headers,
or who come from another legitimate site that links directly there.

-- 
Michael Fuhr




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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
@ 2005-11-17 16:02 Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2005-11-17 16:04 ` Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ [email protected]
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2005-11-17 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>; Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www

> > >Is it on my pc or the http://www.postgresql.org/about/ is broken?
> > >I only get "<div id="pgContainerWr"
> > 
> > Works fine from here.
> 
> Here too.  I suspect it's more than coincidence that the 
> indicated text ends exactly 1024 bytes into the content.
> 
> % curl http://www.postgresql.org/about/ | hd [...]
> 000003e0  3c 62 6f 64 79 3e 0a 20  20 20 3c 64 69 76 20 69  
> |<body>.   <div i|
> 000003f0  64 3d 22 70 67 43 6f 6e  74 61 69 6e 65 72 57 72  
> |d="pgContainerWr|
> 00000400  61 70 22 3e 0a 20 20 20  20 3c 64 69 76 20 69 64  
> |ap">.    <div id|
> [...]

Interesting...

I just hit every mirror, and they all respond correctly.

Perhaps the mirror was hit just as it was resyncing the page. Did this
happen just once, or more than once?

//Magnus



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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
  2005-11-17 16:02 Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/ Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2005-11-17 16:04 ` [email protected]
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From: [email protected] @ 2005-11-17 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Michael Fuhr <[email protected]>; Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; [email protected]; pgsql-www

> happen just once, or more than once?

I saw that more than once in the last week.






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* Re: Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
@ 2005-11-17 16:18 Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2005-11-17 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; pgsql-www

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Treat [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 17 November 2005 16:12
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Broken? http://www.postgresql.org/about/
> 
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 05:28, Dave Page wrote:
> > BTW, how goes the form submission verification?
> > 
> 
> I heard an interesting twist on this... rather than doing image
> verification, you instead reject submissions that come from page that
> don't contain a postgresql.org refferrer on the submission page. The
> idea being the spam bots post directly to the submission 
> page, but users
> navigate thier way into the page. simple (and transparent to the user)
> but apparently very effective for some folks that have 
> implemented it. 

Sounds like a good idea, except legitimate clients might not send it (I
don't know off-hand if any do offer a way to stop it, but it seems like
a sensible privacy option). Also I imagine it would be really easy to
add it to the spam bots, so I doubt it'll be long before it stops
working for them as well.

Regards, Dave.




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