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To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
Cc: Célestin Matte <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pgarchives: parser: handle messages in which Message-ID is missing
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 22:07:14 +0100
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:47 PM Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 2021-Nov-04, Célestin Matte wrote:
>
> > > I don't think this should be the responsibility of pglister. As you
> > > say, "most MTAs do add this field" -- and the solution is to
> > > configure the MTA to do this. We already rely on the MTA to get a
> > > lot of other important things right.
> >
> > But then these messages will get delivered by pglister but pgarchives
> > will fail to archive them, although they do not actually break
> > requirements. Shouldn't we follow the RFC here?
>
I agree that the scenario is a problem, per below. I don't agree that
making up an id is a solution to that problem.
Maybe pglister should refuse to deliver messages that don't contain
> a Message-Id.
>
It should. I actually thought it did already, but apparently it does not. I
guess we've only ever used it under properly configured MTAs :)
Have you actually come across any case where a *proper* non-spam message is
sent without a message-id and passes through actual mailservers on the way?
Looking through the approximately 1.4 million mails in the postgres list
archives, not a single one has a message-id generated by the archives
server MTA (which is configured to generate it). Not a single one by our
inbound relay servers. And exactly one by the pglister server -- which
turns out to be a bounce that ended up in the archives because of a
misconfiguration back in 2018 that's not visible in the public archives.
--
Magnus Hagander
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