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* Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-21 15:55 Dave Page <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Page @ 2021-01-21 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pgadmin-hackers; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]> All, As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to offer builds for testing at: https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please bear that in mind. We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get prior to the release. Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support changes; - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29. - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added for the v4.30 release onwards. Thank you! -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-21 16:01 richard coleman <[email protected]> parent: Dave Page <[email protected]> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: richard coleman @ 2021-01-21 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgadmin-hackers; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]> Dave, Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing version? Thanks, rik. On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > All, > > As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process > which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very > early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and > server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately > we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. > > We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) > to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to > offer builds for testing at: > > https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ > > There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and > RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, > 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. > > These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be > released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support > (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD > tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please > bear that in mind. > > We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the > new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get > prior to the release. > > Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support > changes; > > - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are > deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. > > - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of > the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as > well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29. > > - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop > producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python > modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be > the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. > > - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added > for the v4.30 release onwards. > > Thank you! > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-21 20:25 Doug Easterbrook <[email protected]> parent: Dave Page <[email protected]> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Doug Easterbrook @ 2021-01-21 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgadmin-hackers; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]> I’cew got it installed on my mac. I’ll use it and see what I notice. Doug Easterbrook Arts Management Systems Ltd. mailto:[email protected] http://www.artsman.com Phone (403) 650-1978 > On January 21, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > > All, > > As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. > > We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to offer builds for testing at: > > https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ <https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/; > > There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. > > These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please bear that in mind. > > We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get prior to the release. > > Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support changes; > > - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. > > - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29. > > - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. > > - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added for the v4.30 release onwards. > > Thank you! > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com <http://pgsnake.blogspot.com/; > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com <http://www.enterprisedb.com/; > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-21 20:29 Dave Page <[email protected]> parent: richard coleman <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Page @ 2021-01-21 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: richard coleman <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>; pgadmin-hackers Hi On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave, > > Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing > version? > Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work. > Thanks, > > rik. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All, >> >> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process >> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very >> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and >> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately >> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. >> >> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) >> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to >> offer builds for testing at: >> >> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ >> >> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and >> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, >> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. >> >> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be >> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support >> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD >> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please >> bear that in mind. >> >> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the >> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get >> prior to the release. >> >> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support >> changes; >> >> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are >> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. >> >> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of >> the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as >> well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29. >> >> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop >> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python >> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be >> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been >> added for the v4.30 release onwards. >> >> Thank you! >> >> -- >> Dave Page >> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com >> Twitter: @pgsnake >> >> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com >> >> -- -- Dave Page https://pgsnake.blogspot.com EDB Postgres https://www.enterprisedb.com ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-21 23:46 Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]> parent: Dave Page <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jack Royal-Gordon @ 2021-01-21 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: richard coleman <[email protected]>; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>; pgadmin-hackers I’ve only just installed and started using the new version, but I love it. Especially that it’s in it’s own window instead of just another tab in the browser window. Kudos! > On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Dave, > > Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing version? > > Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work. > > > Thanks, > > rik. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > All, > > As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. > > We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to offer builds for testing at: > > https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ <https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/; > > There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. > > These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please bear that in mind. > > We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get prior to the release. > > Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support changes; > > - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. > > - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29. > > - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. > > - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added for the v4.30 release onwards. > > Thank you! > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com <http://pgsnake.blogspot.com/; > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com <http://www.enterprisedb.com/; > > -- > -- > Dave Page > https://pgsnake.blogspot.com <https://pgsnake.blogspot.com/; > > EDB Postgres > https://www.enterprisedb.com <https://www.enterprisedb.com/; ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-25 02:00 Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]> parent: Dave Page <[email protected]> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Anthony DeBarros @ 2021-01-25 02:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgadmin-hackers; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]> Dave, On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > > We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) > to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to > offer builds for testing at: > > Been using this today on macOS Catalina. Very nice. No issues detected. Nice to have it as a separate app -- makes switching between pgAdmin and other tasks much easier. One thing I would love now is if Command-s would save a changed file that's open in the Query Tool. I tried looking in Preferences > Query Tool > Keyboard Shortcuts and seeing how to make that work, but was not successful. Anthony ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-25 09:11 Dave Page <[email protected]> parent: Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Page @ 2021-01-25 09:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]>; +Cc: richard coleman <[email protected]>; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>; pgadmin-hackers On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:46 PM Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > I’ve only just installed and started using the new version, but I love it. > Especially that it’s in it’s own window instead of just another tab in the > browser window. Kudos! > Thanks for the feedback :-) > > On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing >> version? >> > > Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work. > > >> Thanks, >> >> rik. >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process >>> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very >>> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and >>> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately >>> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues. >>> >>> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) >>> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to >>> offer builds for testing at: >>> >>> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ >>> >>> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and >>> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, >>> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. >>> >>> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be >>> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support >>> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD >>> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please >>> bear that in mind. >>> >>> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the >>> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get >>> prior to the release. >>> >>> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support >>> changes; >>> >>> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds >>> are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. >>> >>> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all >>> of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it >>> as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be >>> v4.29. >>> >>> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop >>> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python >>> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be >>> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. >>> >>> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been >>> added for the v4.30 release onwards. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Page >>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com >>> Twitter: @pgsnake >>> >>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com >>> >>> -- > -- > Dave Page > https://pgsnake.blogspot.com > > EDB Postgres > https://www.enterprisedb.com > > > -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime @ 2021-01-25 09:13 Dave Page <[email protected]> parent: Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Page @ 2021-01-25 09:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgadmin-hackers; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 2:00 AM Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave, > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) >> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to >> offer builds for testing at: >> >> > Been using this today on macOS Catalina. Very nice. No issues detected. > Great, thanks! > > Nice to have it as a separate app -- makes switching between pgAdmin and > other tasks much easier. > > One thing I would love now is if Command-s would save a changed file > that's open in the Query Tool. I tried looking in Preferences > Query Tool > > Keyboard Shortcuts and seeing how to make that work, but was not > successful. > > Hmm, I'm surprised that's not implemented. Please log a feature request at https://redmine.postgresql.org/projects/pgadmin4/issues/new Thanks. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 8+ messages in thread
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