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* pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-09 15:28 richard coleman <[email protected]>
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From: richard coleman @ 2025-07-09 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgadmin-support
I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
Why has this change been made?
How do I get it back?
Thanks,
rik.
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-09 15:47 Dave Page <[email protected]>
parent: richard coleman <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2025-07-09 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: richard coleman <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgadmin-support
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>
> Why has this change been made?
> How do I get it back?
>
Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
--
Dave Page
pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-10 04:08 Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Toshniwal @ 2025-07-10 04:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: richard coleman <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Hi Richard/Dave,
I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
[image: image.png]
On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>>
>> Why has this change been made?
>> How do I get it back?
>>
>
> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>
> --
> Dave Page
> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>
>
--
Thanks,
Aditya Toshniwal
pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
<https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
"Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-10 06:16 Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
parent: Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Akshay Joshi @ 2025-07-10 06:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; richard coleman <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Hi Richard/Dave,
If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not be
visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Richard/Dave,
>
> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>>>
>>> Why has this change been made?
>>> How do I get it back?
>>>
>>
>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Aditya Toshniwal
> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-10 08:07 Dave Page <[email protected]>
parent: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2025-07-10 08:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>; +Cc: Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>; richard coleman <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Hi
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Richard/Dave,
>
> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not be
> visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>
That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls that
are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind of
confusion.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>
>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>>>>
>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Aditya Toshniwal
>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>
>
--
Dave Page
pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-10 12:58 richard coleman <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: richard coleman @ 2025-07-10 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>; Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Hi again,
I can attest that as of 9.1 the password box was always visible in the
Connection tab, at least on Windows 10.
Why would someone *ever* want to hide somethihng so basic as the text input
area for the password?
When would a password textbox never be needed?
These seems to be rather strange UI/workflow choices. From what little
I've gathered from this breif exchange, it appears that pgAdmin4 has
switched to a workflow that:
1. Displays the Password label and textbox only when you first Register
a server.
2. If the password has been saved, and is still valid, it *hides* both
the Password text and text box on subsequent displays of the Connection tab.
3. If the password becomes invalid, then a separate popup dialog is
presented to the user, independent of the server settings, prompting the
user to enter the new password.
{insert gif of Buggs Bunny displaying confused contortions here}
Huh?
Who thought that this was a good road to travel down, and how can it be
reverted to a more standard workflow?
In my humble opion, you should *never* diable any of the connection
settings. Especially none of these
- Host
- Port
- Username
- Password
The user should always be able to see and or change these values.
Here are just a few of very common situations which your current workflow
makes needlessly complicated:
- You are creating/registering server connections for servers or more
commonly roles, that don't currently exist.
- You want to change the saved password in preperation of an imminent
password change on the server.
- You want to reuse an existing server connection with a different
username and password (this one happens quite a bit while testing for me
personally).
I hope this behavior can be changed/reverted to a some
standard/common/sensible one in the very near future.
Thanks,
rik.
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:07 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>
>> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not be
>> visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
>> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
>> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>>
>
> That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls that
> are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind of
> confusion.
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>
>>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
>>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>
>
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-11 00:25 Darren Duncan <[email protected]>
parent: richard coleman <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Darren Duncan @ 2025-07-11 00:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]
On a related matter, which I can make a formal feature request ticket for...
PgAdmin should have a password manager UI that lets you see/retrieve the saved
passwords it uses with remembered servers.
A few months ago I ran into a problem where I had temporarily forgotten what the
password was for a Postgres user, which I needed to use from a separate client,
but PgAdmin seemingly had no built-in way to show the password it remembered.
Darren Duncan
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-17 12:34 Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
parent: richard coleman <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Akshay Joshi @ 2025-07-17 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: richard coleman <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Hi Richard,
As we have a release of v9.6 scheduled for next week and limited time for
major changes, we’ve implemented a minimal fix for now.
The "Password" and "Save Password" fields are now editable only when the
server is disconnected. By default, the password field is read-only and
becomes editable only if "Save Password" is set to true. This is because
changing the password has no effect unless it is saved. If the password is
not 'Saved', the user will be prompted to enter the password again when
attempting to connect.
I understand this isn’t a complete solution, but at least the *Password*
and *Save Password* fields will now be visible on the *Connection* tab for
already registered servers.
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 6:28 PM richard coleman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I can attest that as of 9.1 the password box was always visible in the
> Connection tab, at least on Windows 10.
>
> Why would someone *ever* want to hide somethihng so basic as the text
> input area for the password?
> When would a password textbox never be needed?
>
> These seems to be rather strange UI/workflow choices. From what little
> I've gathered from this breif exchange, it appears that pgAdmin4 has
> switched to a workflow that:
>
> 1. Displays the Password label and textbox only when you first
> Register a server.
> 2. If the password has been saved, and is still valid, it *hides* both
> the Password text and text box on subsequent displays of the Connection tab.
> 3. If the password becomes invalid, then a separate popup dialog is
> presented to the user, independent of the server settings, prompting the
> user to enter the new password.
>
> {insert gif of Buggs Bunny displaying confused contortions here}
> Huh?
>
> Who thought that this was a good road to travel down, and how can it be
> reverted to a more standard workflow?
>
> In my humble opion, you should *never* diable any of the connection
> settings. Especially none of these
>
> - Host
> - Port
> - Username
> - Password
>
> The user should always be able to see and or change these values.
>
> Here are just a few of very common situations which your current workflow
> makes needlessly complicated:
>
> - You are creating/registering server connections for servers or more
> commonly roles, that don't currently exist.
> - You want to change the saved password in preperation of an imminent
> password change on the server.
> - You want to reuse an existing server connection with a different
> username and password (this one happens quite a bit while testing for me
> personally).
>
> I hope this behavior can be changed/reverted to a some
> standard/common/sensible one in the very near future.
>
> Thanks,
> rik.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:07 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>
>>> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not be
>>> visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
>>> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
>>> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>>>
>>
>> That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls
>> that are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind
>> of confusion.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>>
>>>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>>>
>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows
>>>>>> 10.
>>>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been
>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>>>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>
>>
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* Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
@ 2025-07-17 12:53 richard coleman <[email protected]>
parent: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: richard coleman @ 2025-07-17 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>; pgadmin-support
Aditya,
Thanks, I look forward to that release.
Hopefully pgAdmin can more fully return to a sensible and standardized
approach to storing and changing connection credentials in future releases.
rik.
On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 8:35 AM Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> As we have a release of v9.6 scheduled for next week and limited time for
> major changes, we’ve implemented a minimal fix for now.
>
> The "Password" and "Save Password" fields are now editable only when the
> server is disconnected. By default, the password field is read-only and
> becomes editable only if "Save Password" is set to true. This is because
> changing the password has no effect unless it is saved. If the password is
> not 'Saved', the user will be prompted to enter the password again when
> attempting to connect.
>
> I understand this isn’t a complete solution, but at least the *Password*
> and *Save Password* fields will now be visible on the *Connection* tab
> for already registered servers.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 6:28 PM richard coleman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I can attest that as of 9.1 the password box was always visible in the
>> Connection tab, at least on Windows 10.
>>
>> Why would someone *ever* want to hide somethihng so basic as the text
>> input area for the password?
>> When would a password textbox never be needed?
>>
>> These seems to be rather strange UI/workflow choices. From what little
>> I've gathered from this breif exchange, it appears that pgAdmin4 has
>> switched to a workflow that:
>>
>> 1. Displays the Password label and textbox only when you first
>> Register a server.
>> 2. If the password has been saved, and is still valid, it *hides* both
>> the Password text and text box on subsequent displays of the Connection tab.
>> 3. If the password becomes invalid, then a separate popup dialog is
>> presented to the user, independent of the server settings, prompting the
>> user to enter the new password.
>>
>> {insert gif of Buggs Bunny displaying confused contortions here}
>> Huh?
>>
>> Who thought that this was a good road to travel down, and how can it be
>> reverted to a more standard workflow?
>>
>> In my humble opion, you should *never* diable any of the connection
>> settings. Especially none of these
>>
>> - Host
>> - Port
>> - Username
>> - Password
>>
>> The user should always be able to see and or change these values.
>>
>> Here are just a few of very common situations which your current workflow
>> makes needlessly complicated:
>>
>> - You are creating/registering server connections for servers or more
>> commonly roles, that don't currently exist.
>> - You want to change the saved password in preperation of an imminent
>> password change on the server.
>> - You want to reuse an existing server connection with a different
>> username and password (this one happens quite a bit while testing for me
>> personally).
>>
>> I hope this behavior can be changed/reverted to a some
>> standard/common/sensible one in the very near future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> rik.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:07 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>>
>>>> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not
>>>> be visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
>>>> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
>>>> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls
>>> that are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind
>>> of confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows
>>>>>>> 10.
>>>>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been
>>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>>>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>>>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>>>>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>
>>>
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