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* What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 19:07  Justin Clift <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Justin Clift @ 2023-10-02 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)

There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
for kids:

   
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...

And it's from MS of all places (!!!).

I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
it's being introduced to kids. ;)

+ Justin





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 21:41  Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  parent: Justin Clift <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Robert Bernier @ 2023-10-02 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-) 


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
> 
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
> 
>    
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
> 
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
> 
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
> 
> + Justin





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:02  Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  parent: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Katherine Mcmillan @ 2023-10-02 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

Hi Robert,

How does Oracle support PostgreSQL?

EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?

Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"?

Thank you,
Katie
________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
>
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
> + Justin




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* RE: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:04  M Sarwar <[email protected]>
  parent: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: M Sarwar @ 2023-10-02 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

I do not.think that Oracle.will ever support Postgress.
Sarwar




Sent from my Galaxy



-------- Original message --------
From: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
Date: 10/2/23 6:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>, Justin Clift <[email protected]>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Hi Robert,

How does Oracle support PostgreSQL?

EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?

Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"?

Thank you,
Katie
________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
>
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
> + Justin




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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:06  Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  parent: M Sarwar <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Katherine Mcmillan @ 2023-10-02 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: M Sarwar <[email protected]>; Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

I really think it depends on what Robert means by "supports", and I'm really curious.

-Katie
________________________________
From: M Sarwar <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 18:04
To: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email
I do not.think that Oracle.will ever support Postgress.
Sarwar




Sent from my Galaxy



-------- Original message --------
From: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
Date: 10/2/23 6:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>, Justin Clift <[email protected]>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Hi Robert,

How does Oracle support PostgreSQL?

EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?

Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"?

Thank you,
Katie
________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
>
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
> + Justin




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* RE: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:15  Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  parent: M Sarwar <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Robert Bernier @ 2023-10-02 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: M Sarwar <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

Yes it does ;-)
 
https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres
 
 
 
 

> On 10/02/2023 3:04 PM PDT M Sarwar <[email protected]> wrote:
>  
>  
> I do not.think that Oracle.will ever support Postgress.
> Sarwar
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Galaxy
>  
>  
>  
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
> Date: 10/2/23 6:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>, Justin Clift <[email protected]>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
>  
> Hi Robert,
> 
> How does Oracle support PostgreSQL? 
>  
> EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?
>  
> Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"? 
>  
> Thank you,
> Katie
>  
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
> Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
> To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
>  
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)
> 
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
> >
> > There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> > for kids:
> >
> >
> > https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b... https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
> >
> > And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
> >
> > I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> > it's being introduced to kids. ;)
> >
> > + Justin
> 
> 
> 


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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:24  M Sarwar <[email protected]>
  parent: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: M Sarwar @ 2023-10-02 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

I can understand.
Currently  I am  working Postgres on AWS platforms. aws is giving Postgres support without having any of it's own authentication on the Postgres. In my opinion, OCI will give similar type of support if OCI does.
Thanks,
Sarwar

________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 6:15 PM
To: M Sarwar <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Yes it does ;-)

https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres




On 10/02/2023 3:04 PM PDT M Sarwar <[email protected]> wrote:


I do not.think that Oracle.will ever support Postgress.
Sarwar




Sent from my Galaxy



-------- Original message --------
From: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
Date: 10/2/23 6:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>, Justin Clift <[email protected]>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Hi Robert,

How does Oracle support PostgreSQL?

EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?

Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"?

Thank you,
Katie

________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
>
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
> + Justin




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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-02 22:27  M Sarwar <[email protected]>
  parent: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: M Sarwar @ 2023-10-02 22:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

On this new arrival ( Postgress on OCI), this should be the cheapest approach to deploy Postgres on any Cloud.
I am saying this because OCI claims OCI is the cheapest cloud in the market. But this could be wrong claim as well.

Thanks,
Sarwar

________________________________
From: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 6:02 PM
To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Hi Robert,

How does Oracle support PostgreSQL?

EDB has a "compatibility mode", but that's EDB.  Oracle has produced some documentation for PostgreSQL (ex. https://docs.oracle.com/en/solutions/deploy-postgresql-db/index.html).  You can deploy a PostgreSQL cluster on an Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.  Their "go to" still seems to be MySQL, but perhaps this has changed?

Could you please clarify would you mean by "supports"?

Thank you,
Katie
________________________________
From: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 October 2023 17:41
To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

I suppose it's a sign of the times, considering Oracle now supports PostgreSQL too ;-)


Robert




> On 10/02/2023 12:07 PM PDT Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:
>
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
> And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
> I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
> it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
> + Justin




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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-03 13:34  Justin Clift <[email protected]>
  parent: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Justin Clift @ 2023-10-03 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

On 2023-10-03 09:15, Robert Bernier wrote:
> Yes it does ;-)
> 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres

Wow, that's awesome.  Maybe a case of "if you can't beat them, join 
them". ;D

+ Justin





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-03 22:41  Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>
  parent: Justin Clift <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Devrim Gündüz @ 2023-10-03 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

Hi,

https://twitter.com/DevrimGunduz/status/1201074936200269826

:)


On 2 October 2023 15:07:15 GMT-04:00, Justin Clift <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
>
>There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
>for kids:
>
>  https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
>
>And it's from MS of all places (!!!).
>
>I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
>it's being introduced to kids. ;)
>
>+ Justin
>
>

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-03 23:30  Michael Paquier <[email protected]>
  parent: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Michael Paquier @ 2023-10-03 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>

On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 06:41:45PM -0400, Devrim Gündüz wrote:
> https://twitter.com/DevrimGunduz/status/1201074936200269826
> 
> :)

If there are exemplaries of that in the area of Prague, around
December...  I'd love getting one. :D
--
Michael


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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-04 05:00  Ian Lawrence Barwick <[email protected]>
  parent: Michael Paquier <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Ian Lawrence Barwick @ 2023-10-04 05:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Paquier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>

2023年10月4日(水) 8:31 Michael Paquier <[email protected]>:
>
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 06:41:45PM -0400, Devrim Gündüz wrote:
> > https://twitter.com/DevrimGunduz/status/1201074936200269826
> >
> > :)
>
> If there are exemplaries of that in the area of Prague, around
> December...  I'd love getting one. :D

You might just be in luck, see:

  https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...


Regards

Ian Barwick





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-04 06:07  Michael Paquier <[email protected]>
  parent: Ian Lawrence Barwick <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Michael Paquier @ 2023-10-04 06:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Lawrence Barwick <[email protected]>; +Cc: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:00:04PM +0900, Ian Lawrence Barwick wrote:
> You might just be in luck, see:
> 
>   https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...

イエイ。
--
Michael


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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-04 11:26  Guillaume Lelarge <[email protected]>
  parent: Michael Paquier <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Guillaume Lelarge @ 2023-10-04 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Paquier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>

Le mer. 4 oct. 2023 à 01:30, Michael Paquier <[email protected]> a écrit :

> On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 06:41:45PM -0400, Devrim Gündüz wrote:
> > https://twitter.com/DevrimGunduz/status/1201074936200269826
> >
> > :)
>
> If there are exemplaries of that in the area of Prague, around
> December...  I'd love getting one. :D
>

You should ask Claire Giordano (CC-ed). I got one from her at FOSDEM (2022
I guess?). That's when (and where) I discovered these activity books.


-- 
Guillaume.


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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-06 21:20  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Guillaume Lelarge <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2023-10-06 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guillaume Lelarge <[email protected]>; +Cc: Michael Paquier <[email protected]>; Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>

On Wed, Oct  4, 2023 at 01:26:37PM +0200, Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
> Le mer. 4 oct. 2023 à 01:30, Michael Paquier <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
>     On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 06:41:45PM -0400, Devrim Gündüz wrote:
>     > https://twitter.com/DevrimGunduz/status/1201074936200269826
>     >
>     > :)
> 
>     If there are exemplaries of that in the area of Prague, around
>     December...  I'd love getting one. :D
> 
> 
> You should ask Claire Giordano (CC-ed). I got one from her at FOSDEM (2022 I
> guess?). That's when (and where) I discovered these activity books.

I just brought home the new edition from PGConf NYC for my wife.  :-)
She loves it.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  Only you can decide what is important to you.





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-06 21:20  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2023-10-06 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Bernier <[email protected]>; +Cc: M Sarwar <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Justin Clift <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

On Mon, Oct  2, 2023 at 03:15:24PM -0700, Robert Bernier wrote:
> Yes it does ;-)
>  
> https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres

My blog entry has more details:

	https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <[email protected]>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  Only you can decide what is important to you.





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-06 23:52  Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Shane Ambler @ 2023-10-06 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>

On 7/10/23 07:50, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Mon, Oct  2, 2023 at 03:15:24PM -0700, Robert Bernier wrote:
>> Yes it does ;-)
>>  
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres
> 
> My blog entry has more details:
> 
> 	https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023
> 

I think for some clarity ...

this started with "Oracle now supports PostgreSQL"

So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL
software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.

"Oracle the database" does not provide any support as far as
(non-standard) SQL compatibility with PostgreSQL schema designs or
functions/procedures etc


Then in the opposite direction, the EDB version of PostgreSQL does add
some level of SQL and cli support for running PostgreSQL as a
replacement for an Oracle DB backend.


-- 

Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz






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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-07 01:17  Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  parent: Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Katherine Mcmillan @ 2023-10-07 01:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shane Ambler <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>

Hi Shane,

Not to be contrarian, but I think this started without Oracle... all of this.

As far as I can tell, this string started with an awesome post from Justin Clift that didn't have anything to do with Oracle:
"Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)

There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
for kids:


https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...
[https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/512277i58AE528486E0E8B5/image-size/...]<https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...;
The Story Behind the Activity Book for Postgres<https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-b...;
Read the story behind “An Activity Book for Postgres”. What inspired its creation? How can you get your own copy?
techcommunity.microsoft.com


And it's from MS of all places (!!!).

I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
it's being introduced to kids. ;)

+ Justin"

-Katie

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
Sent: 06 October 2023 19:52
To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 7/10/23 07:50, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Mon, Oct  2, 2023 at 03:15:24PM -0700, Robert Bernier wrote:
>> Yes it does ;-)
>>
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres
>
> My blog entry has more details:
>
>       https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023
>

I think for some clarity ...

this started with "Oracle now supports PostgreSQL"

So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL
software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.

"Oracle the database" does not provide any support as far as
(non-standard) SQL compatibility with PostgreSQL schema designs or
functions/procedures etc


Then in the opposite direction, the EDB version of PostgreSQL does add
some level of SQL and cli support for running PostgreSQL as a
replacement for an Oracle DB backend.


--

Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-07 12:35  Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
  parent: Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread

From: Laurenz Albe @ 2023-10-07 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shane Ambler <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>

On Sat, 2023-10-07 at 10:22 +1030, Shane Ambler wrote:
> So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL
> software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.

I don't know if they porvide support.  Cloud hosting companies are usually
not that interested in providing support.  They want their customers to pay
their monthly dues without generating any extra work for them.

And what I have been told about the development of the quality of Oracle
support in the last decade or so, support by Oracle doesn't sound exactly
appealing (beside the fact that they probably know little about PostgreSQL).

Yours,
Laurenz Albe





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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-07 23:03  Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
  parent: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Shane Ambler @ 2023-10-07 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>

On 7/10/23 11:47, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hi Shane,
> 
> Not to be contrarian, but I think this started without Oracle... all of this.
> 
> As far as I can tell, this string started with an awesome post from Justin Clift that didn't have anything to do with Oracle:
> "Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)
> 
> There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
> for kids:

Actually I was only referring to this side thread of oracle support that
popped into that initial thread.


-- 

Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz






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* Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)
@ 2023-10-07 23:10  Shane Ambler <[email protected]>
  parent: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread

From: Shane Ambler @ 2023-10-07 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>

On 7/10/23 23:05, Laurenz Albe wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-10-07 at 10:22 +1030, Shane Ambler wrote:
>> So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL
>> software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.
> 
> I don't know if they porvide support.  Cloud hosting companies are usually
> not that interested in providing support.  They want their customers to pay
> their monthly dues without generating any extra work for them.

Well from their product news -
https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/expand-managed-open-source-services-on-oci

"OCI Database with PostgreSQL is a fully managed PostgreSQL database
service ..."

"Fully managed" should mean they keep the system and PostgreSQL running
and you only get to access the server as a client, so they have to
provide some level of support.

> And what I have been told about the development of the quality of Oracle
> support in the last decade or so, support by Oracle doesn't sound exactly
> appealing (beside the fact that they probably know little about PostgreSQL).
No one said their support was good ;) only that they offer it.

-- 

Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz







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