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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot.pg@gmail.com>
Cc: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Cc: adam@labkey.com
Cc: pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: BUG #18711: Attempting a connection with a database name longer than 63 characters now fails
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:41:01 -0500
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Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> On Mon, Dec  2, 2024 at 06:16:19PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Reality is that using multiple encodings in shared catalogs just plain
>> doesn't work very well.  Even something as simple as "select datname
>> from pg_database" is likely to give garbage if there are entries in
>> encodings that don't match your current database's encoding.  What
>> Thomas is proposing is to formalize and then enforce the two usage
>> patterns that we know work okay.

> I have not heard of anyone complaining about the problem of viewing the
> shared catalog  columns so I didn't consider that benefit.

That's probably because they've learned the hard way to use one of
the two usage patterns that actually work.

Also, I think we have some code around pg_stat_activity that
suppresses possibly-wrongly-encoded data from other DBs (in query
text, not only user/DB names).  That suppression could be relaxed
in the only-one-encoding mode, which would be a genuinue benefit.

			regards, tom lane





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