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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Andrey Borodin <x4mmm@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Петър Славов <pet.slavov@gmail.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: BUG #17485: Records missing from Primary Key index when doing REINDEX INDEX CONCURRENTLY
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 10:40:03 -0400
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On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 12:39:20PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:17:33PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > *  Caused by CREATE/REINDEX CONCURRENTLY
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > *  No way to detect which indexes were created concurrently
> > *  amcheck will be required to find corrupt indexes (options?)
> 
> amcheck would help for btree, not the other AMs.  I am not sure but
> there could be other symptoms that may not be detected by amcheck?
> 
> > *  Heap is fine, only index is corrupt
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > *  Bug since PG 14
> 
> 14.0, yes.
> 
> > *  Not known why reports are only appearing now
> > *  Feature will likely need to be removed rather than fixed
> 
> Trends go in this direction.  It does not seem like there is a
> complete conclusion on this point, either.

Uh, if people don't know if they have used CREATE/REINDEX CONCURRENTLY
in PG 14.0+, they are going to need to run amcheck on all btree indexes
and reindex all non-btree indexes?  That is going to be a painful
message to deliver, and hear.  :-(

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  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
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