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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: maja zaloznik <maja.zaloznik@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:28:31 -0400
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 06:11:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 05:45:03PM +0100, maja zaloznik wrote:
> > Thanks David, this is very helpful!
> > 
> > I would have to agree with Tom, that while technically true, the text could be
> > reworded. namely it was not obvious to me that i had used a 'packager' to
> > install the clusters and therefore was doing something outside the purview of
> > the postgres documentation.
> > 
> > To me the last sentence would be clearer if it read something like:
> > 
> > "Most packagers will name this role `postgres` by default, but this is not
> > required".
> > 
> > That way it avoids the passive tense which leaves some ambiguity as to who or
> > what and when is naming this superuser.
> 
> I think the paragraph was trying to do too much so I simplified it,
> patch attached.

Patch applied to PG 16.  I didn't go further because this is only a
clarification, rather than missing or incorrect information, and the
patch didn't cleanly apply to PG 15.

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