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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Return of the Solaris vacuum polling problem -- anyone remember this?
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <201008231924.o7NJOL616202@momjian.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10189.1282590934@sss.pgh.pa.us>

Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> > OK, I have attached a proposed patch to improve this.  I moved the
> > pg_clog mention to a new paragraph and linked it to the reason the
> > default is relatively low.
> 
> The references to "vacuum freeze" are incorrect; autovacuum does NOT
> do the equivalent of VACUUM FREEZE.  Please stop playing around with
> the perfectly good existing wording.

Uh, so VACUUM FREEZE unconditionally freezes all rows, while vacuum just
freezes rows who's xid is older than vacuum_freeze_min_age?  I saw that
in our current docs in reference to VACUUM FREEZE:

	Selects aggressive "freezing" of tuples. Specifying FREEZE is
	equivalent to performing VACUUM with the vacuum_freeze_min_age
	parameter set to zero. The FREEZE option is deprecated and
	will be removed in a future release; set the parameter instead.

Updated patch attached.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                             http://enterprisedb.com

  + It's impossible for everything to be true. +

Attachments:

/pgpatches/autovac (text/x-diff, 1.9K) download Index: doc/src/sgml/config.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.307 diff -c -c -r1.307 config.sgml *** doc/src/sgml/config.sgml 23 Aug 2010 02:43:25 -0000 1.307 --- doc/src/sgml/config.sgml 23 Aug 2010 18:55:02 -0000 *************** *** 4150,4161 **** <para> Specifies the maximum age (in transactions) that a table's <structname>pg_class</>.<structfield>relfrozenxid</> field can ! attain before a <command>VACUUM</> operation is forced to allow removal ! of old files from the <filename>pg_clog</> subdirectory and prevent ! transaction ID wraparound within the table. Note that the system ! will launch autovacuum processes to prevent wraparound even when ! autovacuum is otherwise disabled. ! The default is 200 million transactions. This parameter can only be set at server start, but the setting can be reduced for individual tables by changing storage parameters. --- 4150,4165 ---- <para> Specifies the maximum age (in transactions) that a table's <structname>pg_class</>.<structfield>relfrozenxid</> field can ! attain before a <command>VACUUM</> operation is forced ! to prevent transaction ID wraparound within the table. ! Note that the system will launch autovacuum processes to ! prevent wraparound even when autovacuum is otherwise disabled. ! </para> ! ! <para> ! Vacuum also allows removal of old files from the ! <filename>pg_clog</> subdirectory, which is why the default ! is a relatively low 200 million transactions. This parameter can only be set at server start, but the setting can be reduced for individual tables by changing storage parameters.

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