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From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:29:35 -0400
Message-ID: <20190805172935.GK29202@tamriel.snowman.net> (raw)
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Greetings,

* Robert Haas (robertmhaas@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:21 AM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > Just to be clear, I brought up this exact concern back in *November*:
> >
> > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20181127153405.GX3415%40tamriel.snowman.net
> >
> > And now because this was pushed forward and the concerns that I raised
> > ignored, we're having to deal with this towards the end of the release
> > cycle instead of during normal development.
> 
> I disagree. 

It's unclear what you're disagreeing with here as the below response
doesn't seem to discuss the question about if these issues were brought
up and pointed out previously, nor about if I was the one who raised
them, nor about if we're towards the end of the release cycle.

> My analysis is that you're blocking a straightforward bug
> fix because we're not prepared to redesign the world to match your
> expectations. The actual point of controversy at the moment, as I
> understand it, is this: if the backend, while rewriting
> postgresql.auto.conf, discovers that it contains duplicates, should we
> (a) give a WARNING or (b) not?

No, that isn't the point of the controversy nor does it relate, at all,
to what you quoted above, so I don't think there's much value in
responding to the discussion about WARNING or not that you put together
below.

Thanks,

Stephen

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