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From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: Fujii Masao <fujii@postgresql.org>
Cc: Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Weird failure with latches in curculio on v15
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 15:57:47 -0800
Message-ID: <20230205235747.GA275913@nathanxps13> (raw)
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On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 03:01:57PM -0800, Andres Freund wrote:
> I think at the very least you'd want to have a separate callback for
> restoring segments than for restoring other files. But more likely a
> separate callback for each type of file to be restored.
> 
> For the timeline history case an parameter indicating that we don't want
> to restore the file, just to see if there's a conflict, would make
> sense.

That seems reasonable.

> For the segment files, we'd likely need a parameter to indicate whether
> the restore is random or not.

Wouldn't this approach still require each module to handle restoring ahead
of time?  I agree that the shell overhead isn't the main performance issue,
but it's unclear to me how much of this should be baked into PostgreSQL.  I
mean, we could introduce a GUC that tells us how far ahead to restore and
have a background worker (or multiple background workers) asynchronously
pull files into a staging directory via the callbacks.  Is that the sort of
scope you are envisioning?

-- 
Nathan Bossart
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com





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