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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeremy Schneider <schnjere@amazon.com>
Cc: Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Should we increase the default vacuum_cost_limit?
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 11:31:36 -0500
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David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> I agree that vacuum_cost_delay might not be granular enough, however.
> If we're going to change the vacuum_cost_delay into microseconds, then
> I'm a little concerned that it'll silently break existing code that
> sets it.  Scripts that do manual off-peak vacuums are pretty common
> out in the wild.

True.  Perhaps we could keep the units as ms but make it a float?
Not sure if the "units" logic can cope though.

> My vote is to 10x the maximum for vacuum_cost_limit and consider
> changing how it all works in PG13.  If nothing happens before this
> time next year then we can consider making vacuum_cost_delay a
> microseconds GUC.

I'm not really happy with the idea of changing the defaults in this area
and then changing them again next year.  That's going to lead to a lot
of confusion, and a mess for people who may have changed (some) of
the settings manually.

			regards, tom lane




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