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From: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
To: Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Cc: Daniel Verite <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 16:00:55 -0400
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On 6/6/23 3:56 PM, Joe Conway wrote:
> On 6/6/23 15:55, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:25 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>>> Also +1, except that I find "none" a rather confusing choice of name.
>>>> There *is* a provider, it's just PG itself not either libc or ICU.
>>>> I thought Joe's suggestion of "internal" made more sense.
>>
>>> Or perhaps "builtin" or "postgresql".
>>
>> Either OK by me
> 
> Same here

Since we're bikeshedding, "postgresql" or "builtin" could make it seem 
to a (app) developer that these may be recommended options, as we're 
trusting PostgreSQL to make the best choices for us. Granted, v16 is 
(theoretically) defaulting to ICU, so that choice is made, but the 
unsuspecting developer could make a switch based on that naming.

However, I don't have a strong alternative -- I understand the concern 
about "internal", so I'd be OK with "postgresql" unless a better name 
appears.

Jonathan



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