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help / color / mirror / Atom feed From: Alex Shulgin <ash@commandprompt.com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Cc: Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com>
Cc: Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndquadrant.fr>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Bug tracker tool we need
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:33:38 +0300
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>> That's probably one reason people aren't jumping on this. Because
>> there is no tracker out there that people actually *like*...
>
> I think this is a point worth serious thought.
I wonder why do people keep complaining how their bug tracker of choice
sucks, instead of doing something about that. I can see a few possible
factors:
a) people do like to complain, and it's easier than submitting
meaningful bug reports or feature requests, patches :-)
b) the developers don't listen to their users, which happens far too
often unfortunately
c) (I had yet another idea here, but I forgot what it was :-p)
d) a wild mix of the above
However, this doesn't imply existing tracker software cannot be improved
and more of that must be written from scratch (unless the code is
cryptic and/or is written, probably poorly, in some rarely used
programming language, and is unmaintainable.)
Also, the reasons outlined above do not pertain only to bug tracker
software somehow: any piece of software could suffer from that and I
believe many of us have seen it.
So maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with every existing bug
tracker (e.g. they don't fix bugs for you?) Well, just kidding. ;-)
--
Alex
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