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From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Imseih (AWS), Sami <simseih@amazon.com>
Cc: Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: allow changing autovacuum_max_workers without restarting
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 16:09:09 -0500
Message-ID: <ZnH3dQHtE_k6S2sX@nathan> (raw)
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 01:43:34PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> I just don't see much point in reserving 256 worker "possibilities", tbh. I
> can't think of any practical system where it makes sense to use this much (nor
> do I think it's going to be reasonable in the next 10 years) and it's just
> going to waste memory and startup time for everyone.

Given this, here are some options I see for moving this forward:

* lower the cap to, say, 64 or 32
* exclude autovacuum worker slots from computing number of locks, etc.
* make the cap configurable and default it to something low (e.g., 8)

My intent with a reserved set of 256 slots was to prevent users from
needing to deal with two GUCs.  For all practical purposes, it would be
possible to change autovacuum_max_workers whenever you want.  But if the
extra resource requirements are too much of a tax, I'm content to change
course.

-- 
nathan





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