From: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Cc: Sergio A. Kessler <ser@perio.unlp.edu.ar>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Cc: PostgreSQL-interfaces <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Scripts (was Re: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] Next release is 7.0(?))
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:24:17 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <199910112224.SAA09670@candle.pha.pa.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910112232220.832-100000@peter-e.yi.org>
> I think Thomas' primary problem was the underscore. (?)
OK.
>
> I was going to say that I can take of that, since I was going to adjust
> the scripts to play well with the new psql anyway. (In particular, I just
> terminally removed the -a option, since it has gone unused for a while and
> might be a very popular option switch in the future. Switches are becoming
> scarce these days.)
>
> I can offer the following plan (from my bin dir):
>
> cleardbdir --> (Remove. It's been a while.)
Good.
> createdb --> pgcreatedb
Good.
> createlang --> (In my excessively undereducated opinion, this should
> be removed. createdb and createuser I can see but
> this?)
Yes, remove. What is that doing there. Jan's plpgsql doesn't use it. :-)
> createuser --> pgcreateuser
> destroydb --> pgdestroydb
Can I recommend pgdropdb?
> destroylang --> (see above)
> destroyuser --> pgdestroyuser
pgdropuser?
> ecpg
> initdb --> pginitdb
> initlocation --> pginitlocation
> ipcclean --> pg_ipcclean
> (An underscore here to make it more complicated to type :)
> . . .
Not sure about that.
> vacuumdb --> pgvacuumdb
OK.
> Alternatively, there could also be shorter commands, now that the
> association with the PostgreSQL installation is clearer:
> pgcrdb
> pgcruser
> pgdestdb
> pgdestuser
> pgvacuum
Too cryptic for me.
> This might remove the mnemonic association with the related SQL commands
> (which some might find desirable). Some might also go for a set like this:
> pguseradd
> pguserdel
> pgmkdb
> pgrmdb
> in association to *nix commands. (Some might find that a bad idea).
Doesn't grab me.
>
> Furthermore I was thinking about a configure switch along the following
> lines:
>
> --enable-scripts=old|new|both|none
> (defaults to new)
Too complicated. Issue a warning if invoked with old args and remove
old link in 8.x. You can test basename $0 and test to see how you were
invoked.
> since a while back there was some talk about removing the scripts
> altogether (which also died after Thomas protested, I think).
I like the scripts too.
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