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From: Galy Lee <lee.galy@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Cc: jim@nasby.net
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] how to plan for vacuum?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:52:50 +0900
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Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:52:02AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Jim C. Nasby wrote:
>>
>>> I'll generally start with a cost delay of 20ms and adjust based on IO
>>> utilization.
>> I've been considering set a default autovacuum cost delay to 10ms; does
>> this sound reasonable?

The problem in here is that we can not easily find a direct relation 
between
   Cost delay  <-> CPU/IO utilization <--> real performance (response 
time in peak hour)

It is very hard for any normal user to set this correctly. I think the 
experience / trial-and-error approach is awful for the user, every DBA 
need to be an expert of vacuum to keep the system stable. For vacuum is 
still a big threat to the performance, a more intelligent way is needed.

A lot of efforts have contributed to make vacuum to be a more 
lightweight operation, but I think we should still need more efforts on 
how to make it can be used easily and safely.

So I have proposed the "vacuum in time" feature in previous; just let 
vacuum know how long can it runs, and then it will minimize the impact 
in the time span for you. Some argue that it should not have the 
maintenance window assumption, but the most safely way is to run in the 
maintenance window.







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