From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net>
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: autovacuum: recommended?
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:46:42 -0500
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In-Reply-To: <20071119085142.580a8975.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
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Bill Moran wrote:
> In response to Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net>:
>
>> Decibel! wrote:
>>> On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:26 PM, gabor wrote:
>>>> hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:40:43AM +0100, Gábor Farkas wrote:
>>>>>> we are moving one database from postgresql-7.4 to postgresql-8.2.4.
>>>>> any particular reason why not 8.2.5?
>>>> the distribution i use only has 8.2.4 currently.
>>> Then I think you need to consider abandoning your distribution's
>>> packages or find a better distribution. IIRC, 8.2.5 is over 2-3 months
>>> old now; there's no reason a distribution shouldn't have it at this
>>> point. (Unless of course you haven't kept your distribution
>>> up-to-date... ;)
>> Some people run distributions such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (their
>> latest); I do. postgresql that comes with that.
>>
>> Now once they pick a version of a program, they seldom change it. They do
>> put security and bug fixes in it by back-porting the changes into the source
>> code and rebuilding it. I guess for postgresql the changes were too much for
>> backporting, so they upgraded from postgresql-8.1.4-1.1 that came with it
>> originally and are now up to postgresql-8.1.9-1.el5. I am pretty sure they
>> will never upgrade RHEL5 to the 8.2 series because they do not do it to get
>> new features.
>>
>> Now you may think there are better distributions than Red Hat Enterprise
>> Linux 5, but enough people seem to think it good enough to pay for it and
>> keep Red Hat in business. I doubt they are all foolish.
>>
[snip]
>
> I think you've missed the point.
I think you are right.
>
> The discussion is not that the distro is bad because it hasn't moved from
> 8.1 -> 8.2. The comment is that it's bad because it hasn't updated a
> major branch with the latest bug fixes. i.e. it hasn't moved from 8.1.4
> to 8.1.5.
>
> If this is indeed the case, I agree that such a distro isn't worth using.
>
... and I can keep RHEL5 because they went from 8.1.4 to 8.1.9. ;-)
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