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From: William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases (
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:41:10 -0800
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David Boreham wrote:
>  >Spend a fortune on dual core CPUs and then buy crappy disks...  I bet
>  >for most applications this system will be IO bound, and you will see a
>  >nice lot of drive failures in the first year of operation with
>  >consumer grade drives.
> 
> I guess I've never bought into the vendor story that there are
> two reliability grades. Why would they bother making two
> different kinds of bearing, motor etc ? Seems like it's more
> likely an excuse to justify higher prices. In my experience the
> expensive SCSI drives I own break frequently while the cheapo
> desktop drives just keep chunking along (modulo certain products
> that have a specific known reliability problem).
> 
> I'd expect that a larger number of hotter drives will give a less reliable
> system than a smaller number of cooler ones.

Our SCSI drives have failed maybe a little less than our IDE drives. 
Hell, some of the SCSIs even came bad when we bought them. Of course, 
the IDE drive failure % is inflated by all the IBM Deathstars we got -- ugh.

Basically, I've found it's cooling that's most important. Packing the 
drives together into really small rackmounts? Good for your density, not 
good for the drives. Now we do larger rackmounts -- drives have more 
space in between each other plus fans in front and back of the drives.



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