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From: Gavin 'Beau' Baumanis <gavinb@eclinic.com.au>
To: Bart Degryse <Bart.Degryse@indicator.be>
Cc: PostgreSQL SQL List <pgsql-sql@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Function description
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:33:06 +1100
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Bart,

You just need to put forward an appropriate case.

It isn't a case of I would like these things.
It is,
I MUST have these things in order to perform my job.

I MUST have a local / development database for testing and educational / 
learning  purposes - unless of course you would like me to use the 
production server for testing?

It isn't up to ICT to tell you what you can and can't have... Sure, they 
have a role to play - to keep the servers / desktops running - but they 
don't make policy - just enforce it.
you can bet that in order to perform their tasks they have a collection 
of tools and programs they use.

You NEED / MUST have these things in order to successfully do yours.

I would speak to my supervisor / manager and get him/her to direct the 
ICT group to perform the necessary tasks so as to allow you to 
competently complete your duties - if you don't get any joy out of 
talking to them yourself first.

Always give them the benefit of doubt and ask first. You just may well 
be surprised.
Not to mention it you gives some ammunition with your manager to say;
"I have already asked ICT myself but they are unwilling to assist - can 
you direct them to provide the things I need?".

Bart Degryse wrote:
> >>> Gavin 'Beau' Baumanis <gavinb@eclinic.com.au> 2008-02-15 12:46 >>>
> >The windows installer, available at;
> >http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/win32/
> >Allows you to install the DB and / OR the tools including psql
> >So you can just install the psql command line tool onto your local 
> machine.
> I can't install applications on my desktop pc
> ICT won't install that application on my desktop pc... that would require
> an amout of trust and...
>
> >Also,
> >Could you ask for a restricted account on the box that runs the DB?
> >Ie an account that only has access to the DB tools and DB you require 
> to use?
>  
> I can certainly ask, but I will not get it...that would require
> an amout of trust and...
>

-- 
If I can ever be of any further assistance, please contact me.

Gavin 'Beau' Baumanis

PalCare Pty Ltd

657 Nicholson Street
Carlton North
Victoria 3054
Australia

P: +61 3 9381 4567
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M: +61 438 545 586
E: beau@palcare.com.au

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