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* russian translation
@ 2014-08-12 18:41 Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
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From: Dmitriy Olshevskiy @ 2014-08-12 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-translators

Hello.
Can you tell me when and where can I send several corrected files of 
russian translation (pg 9.4 branch) ?
Section Translating from wiki_NLS <http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS; 
say that the resulting files must be submitted to the Patch Tracker. I 
do so (issue_782 <https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/782;), but there 
is no answer for a long time. Previous issue is also without "a signs of 
life")
And yet, what communication's channel is right?
Thank you.

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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
@ 2014-08-12 19:13 ` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-12 20:31   ` Re: russian translation Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2014-08-12 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; +Cc: pgsql-translators

Dmitriy Olshevskiy wrote:
> Hello.
> Can you tell me when and where can I send several corrected files of
> russian translation (pg 9.4 branch) ?
> Section Translating from wiki_NLS
> <http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS; say that the resulting files
> must be submitted to the Patch Tracker. I do so (issue_782
> <https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/782;), but there is no answer
> for a long time. Previous issue is also without "a signs of life")
> And yet, what communication's channel is right?

This is the right channel, and that's the right place to submit the new
files.  The problem is just that we're a bit underpowered; at least
speaking for myself, I haven't had the chance to process your ticket.

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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
@ 2014-08-12 20:31   ` Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
  2014-08-12 20:36     ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread

From: Daniele Varrazzo @ 2014-08-12 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>; +Cc: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; pgsql-translators

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> Dmitriy Olshevskiy wrote:
>> Hello.
>> Can you tell me when and where can I send several corrected files of
>> russian translation (pg 9.4 branch) ?
>> Section Translating from wiki_NLS
>> <http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS; say that the resulting files
>> must be submitted to the Patch Tracker. I do so (issue_782
>> <https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/782;), but there is no answer
>> for a long time. Previous issue is also without "a signs of life")
>> And yet, what communication's channel is right?
>
> This is the right channel, and that's the right place to submit the new
> files.  The problem is just that we're a bit underpowered; at least
> speaking for myself, I haven't had the chance to process your ticket.

I have write access to the translations repository: do you want me to
apply the (two) patches currently in the tracker?

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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-12 20:31   ` Re: russian translation Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
@ 2014-08-12 20:36     ` Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-13 00:52       ` Re: russian translation Euler Taveira <euler@timbira.com.br>
  2014-08-13 20:05       ` Re: russian translation Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread

From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2014-08-12 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>; +Cc: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; pgsql-translators

Daniele Varrazzo wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Alvaro Herrera
> <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> > Dmitriy Olshevskiy wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >> Can you tell me when and where can I send several corrected files of
> >> russian translation (pg 9.4 branch) ?
> >> Section Translating from wiki_NLS
> >> <http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS; say that the resulting files
> >> must be submitted to the Patch Tracker. I do so (issue_782
> >> <https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/782;), but there is no answer
> >> for a long time. Previous issue is also without "a signs of life")
> >> And yet, what communication's channel is right?
> >
> > This is the right channel, and that's the right place to submit the new
> > files.  The problem is just that we're a bit underpowered; at least
> > speaking for myself, I haven't had the chance to process your ticket.
> 
> I have write access to the translations repository: do you want me to
> apply the (two) patches currently in the tracker?

I see no reason not to allow that, assuming that if it breaks (i.e.
babel.postgresql.org starts showing errors) you're up for fixing it.

Peter might have a different opinion, please wait for him to speak up.

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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-12 20:31   ` Re: russian translation Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
  2014-08-12 20:36     ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
@ 2014-08-13 00:52       ` Euler Taveira <euler@timbira.com.br>
  2014-08-13 20:11         ` Re: russian translation Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread

From: Euler Taveira @ 2014-08-13 00:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>; Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>; +Cc: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; pgsql-translators

On 12-08-2014 17:36, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Daniele Varrazzo wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Alvaro Herrera
>> <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>>> Dmitriy Olshevskiy wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>> Can you tell me when and where can I send several corrected files of
>>>> russian translation (pg 9.4 branch) ?
>>>> Section Translating from wiki_NLS
>>>> <http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS; say that the resulting files
>>>> must be submitted to the Patch Tracker. I do so (issue_782
>>>> <https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/782;), but there is no answer
>>>> for a long time. Previous issue is also without "a signs of life")
>>>> And yet, what communication's channel is right?
>>>
>>> This is the right channel, and that's the right place to submit the new
>>> files.  The problem is just that we're a bit underpowered; at least
>>> speaking for myself, I haven't had the chance to process your ticket.
>>
That's not what the wiki is saying. Either we fix step 4 [1] or we
configure Redmine to send notifications to pgsql-translators.

> I see no reason not to allow that, assuming that if it breaks (i.e.
> babel.postgresql.org starts showing errors) you're up for fixing it.
> 
I have the same opinion too but I'm not comfortable to apply translation
updates on those languages I have no knowledge. The revert process is
easy but (i) those patches could easily mess up with the encoding or
(ii) even apply patches with newbie errors -- I'm not judging the OP. I
prefer to delegate those updates to people with at least little language
knowledge to ensure the translation quality.


[1] http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS#Translating


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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-12 20:31   ` Re: russian translation Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
  2014-08-12 20:36     ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-13 00:52       ` Re: russian translation Euler Taveira <euler@timbira.com.br>
@ 2014-08-13 20:11         ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2014-08-13 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Euler Taveira <euler@timbira.com.br>; Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>; Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>; +Cc: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; pgsql-translators

On 8/12/14 8:52 PM, Euler Taveira wrote:
> That's not what the wiki is saying. Either we fix step 4 [1] or we
> configure Redmine to send notifications to pgsql-translators.

We've gone back and forth in the past about whether new tickets should
post to the list.  (A lot of the back and forth has been accidentally
through technical difficulties.)  I'm not sure what the behavior should be.

Someone usually goes through the tickets before a release, but everyone
is invited to chip in.

>> I see no reason not to allow that, assuming that if it breaks (i.e.
>> babel.postgresql.org starts showing errors) you're up for fixing it.
>>
> I have the same opinion too but I'm not comfortable to apply translation
> updates on those languages I have no knowledge. The revert process is
> easy but (i) those patches could easily mess up with the encoding or
> (ii) even apply patches with newbie errors -- I'm not judging the OP. I
> prefer to delegate those updates to people with at least little language
> knowledge to ensure the translation quality.

Agreed, but this is a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem.




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* Re: russian translation
  2014-08-12 18:41 russian translation Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>
  2014-08-12 19:13 ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
  2014-08-12 20:31   ` Re: russian translation Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>
  2014-08-12 20:36     ` Re: russian translation Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
@ 2014-08-13 20:05       ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2014-08-13 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>; Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com>; +Cc: Dmitriy Olshevskiy <olshevskiy87@bk.ru>; pgsql-translators

On 8/12/14 4:36 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> I have write access to the translations repository: do you want me to
>> > apply the (two) patches currently in the tracker?

Yes!

> I see no reason not to allow that, assuming that if it breaks (i.e.
> babel.postgresql.org starts showing errors) you're up for fixing it.
> 
> Peter might have a different opinion, please wait for him to speak up.

The more, the merrier!


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