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* Git access?
@ 2008-06-05 15:52 David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 16:04 ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: David Fetter @ 2008-06-05 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

Folks,

How do I get access to create git repositories on git.postgresql.org?

Cheers,
David (and yes, I did write <[email protected]>.  No
response yet.)
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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-05 16:04 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 16:55   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Magnus Hagander @ 2008-06-05 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

David Fetter wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> How do I get access to create git repositories on git.postgresql.org?
> 
> Cheers,
> David (and yes, I did write <[email protected]>.  No
> response yet.)

I think (hope?) that people are working on a better way to deal with
accounts on that one, per some previous discussion. But - that looks to
be the correct address to me, so I think you just need to be a bit more
patient...


//Magnus



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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 16:04 ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-05 16:55   ` David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 17:05     ` Re: Git access? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: David Fetter @ 2008-06-05 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 06:04:03PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > How do I get access to create git repositories on
> > git.postgresql.org?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > David (and yes, I did write <[email protected]>.  No
> > response yet.)
> 
> I think (hope?) that people are working on a better way to deal with
> accounts on that one, per some previous discussion. But - that looks
> to be the correct address to me, so I think you just need to be a
> bit more patient...

In case it wasn't obvious, I'm volunteering to do work on this.  What
needs doing?

Cheers,
David.
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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 16:04 ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-05 16:55   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-05 17:05     ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-05 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; pgsql-www



On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:55 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 06:04:03PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > David Fetter wrote:
>  
> > I think (hope?) that people are working on a better way to deal with
> > accounts on that one, per some previous discussion. But - that looks
> > to be the correct address to me, so I think you just need to be a
> > bit more patient...
> 
> In case it wasn't obvious, I'm volunteering to do work on this.  What
> needs doing?

We need to non-shell account authentication. You can use something like
mod_auth_pgsql or another thing (I can't recall the name) that git
actually suggests.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake






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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-06 11:54 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-07 01:39   ` Re: Git access? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-06-06 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www; +Cc: David Fetter <[email protected]>

Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 schrieb David Fetter:
> How do I get access to create git repositories on git.postgresql.org?
>
> Cheers,
> David (and yes, I did write <[email protected]>.  No
> response yet.)

I did get an email from you at that address, but it did not contain any 
questions or action items, so I just archived it.

The plan is to try out gitosis for account management.  I have no experience 
with this, so we'd need to play around with it first.



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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-07 01:39   ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-07 01:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; David Fetter <[email protected]>



On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 13:54 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 schrieb David Fetter:
> > How do I get access to create git repositories on git.postgresql.org?

> The plan is to try out gitosis for account management.  I have no experience 
> with this, so we'd need to play around with it first.

Peter,

Just FYI if you find you don't like that direction, let me know and I
would gladly show you how I did it for pgweb with SVN... I believe it
would work out of the box for the git stuff.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


> 




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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-10 19:10   ` David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:14     ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: David Fetter @ 2008-06-10 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 01:54:43PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 schrieb David Fetter:
> > How do I get access to create git repositories on git.postgresql.org?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David (and yes, I did write <[email protected]>.  No
> > response yet.)
> 
> I did get an email from you at that address, but it did not contain
> any questions or action items, so I just archived it.

Please find enclosed the email I sent.  If there was something unclear
in it, please let me know what it was.

> The plan is to try out gitosis for account management.

It's an interesting plan, but it's one that's preventing people from
using the service.  How about shelving that plan for the moment and
handing out access as needed to developers? :)

Cheers,
David.
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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-10 19:14     ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:00       ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Magnus Hagander @ 2008-06-10 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

David Fetter wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 01:54:43PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> The plan is to try out gitosis for account management.
> 
> It's an interesting plan, but it's one that's preventing people from
> using the service.  How about shelving that plan for the moment and
> handing out access as needed to developers? :)

Please don't. Handing more access out in an uncontrolled way will give
us a lot more work cleaning things up later.

//Magnus



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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:14     ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-10 22:00       ` David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:05         ` Re: Git access? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: David Fetter @ 2008-06-10 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:14:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 01:54:43PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> The plan is to try out gitosis for account management.
> > 
> > It's an interesting plan, but it's one that's preventing people
> > from using the service.  How about shelving that plan for the
> > moment and handing out access as needed to developers? :)
> 
> Please don't. Handing more access out in an uncontrolled way will
> give us a lot more work cleaning things up later.

With respect, I must disagree.  This resource is incredibly easy to
maintain--and practically useless--because nobody can get on there.

If somebody or somebodies here is thinking about some kind of single
sign-on[1] system for developers, let's discuss that separately.  I
don't recall anybody deciding that we were going to use one, and I
certainly don't recall that it's been decided that that decision gates
access to git.postgresql.org.

Cheers,
David.

[1]  For me, "single sign-on" reads as "high-value target" from an
attacker's point of view, and I generally think the convenience isn't
worth the cascading failure modes such systems have.
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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:14     ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:00       ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-10 22:05         ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:12           ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-06-10 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-www



On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 15:00 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:14:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> > > It's an interesting plan, but it's one that's preventing people
> > > from using the service.  How about shelving that plan for the
> > > moment and handing out access as needed to developers? :)
> > 
> > Please don't. Handing more access out in an uncontrolled way will
> > give us a lot more work cleaning things up later.
> 
> With respect, I must disagree.  This resource is incredibly easy to
> maintain--and practically useless--because nobody can get on there.

I think the point is, we don't want to give shell accounts out. Which is
why we are waiting. That is something I can get behind. We don't need to
be handing out yet more shell accounts.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake





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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:14     ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:00       ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:05         ` Re: Git access? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-10 22:12           ` David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-11 02:48             ` Re: Git access? Andrew Sullivan <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: David Fetter @ 2008-06-10 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:05:11PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 15:00 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:14:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > > It's an interesting plan, but it's one that's preventing people
> > > > from using the service.  How about shelving that plan for the
> > > > moment and handing out access as needed to developers? :)
> > > 
> > > Please don't. Handing more access out in an uncontrolled way will
> > > give us a lot more work cleaning things up later.
> > 
> > With respect, I must disagree.  This resource is incredibly easy to
> > maintain--and practically useless--because nobody can get on there.
> 
> I think the point is, we don't want to give shell accounts out. Which is
> why we are waiting. That is something I can get behind. We don't need to
> be handing out yet more shell accounts.

Why not?  They can be revoked any time. 

Meanwhile, people's inability to use them is costing us.  People are
hosting projects outside our system, not because they don't like our
system, but because they can't get a workable SCM from pgfoundry or
anywhere else inside our system.

Cheers,
David.
-- 
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Phone: +1 415 235 3778  AIM: dfetter666  Yahoo!: dfetter
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* Re: Git access?
  2008-06-05 15:52 Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-06 11:54 ` Re: Git access? Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:10   ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 19:14     ` Re: Git access? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:00       ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:05         ` Re: Git access? Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  2008-06-10 22:12           ` Re: Git access? David Fetter <[email protected]>
@ 2008-06-11 02:48             ` Andrew Sullivan <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Andrew Sullivan @ 2008-06-11 02:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:12:11PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> Why not?  They can be revoked any time. 

Because the people who have to maintain them with the current manual
system say they're not willing to do so, because it costs them too
much time.

Adding more administrators to that pile does not help the problem, it
merely moves the problem of automation tools to another place.

A

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