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* mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
@ 2008-03-13 17:17 Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
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From: Selena Deckelmann @ 2008-03-13 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
Hello!
May we please have the following lists created:
pgsql-us-general (public)
pgsql-us-board (private)
We'd like them to be linked from the "Regional" sections of the
Archives and Mailing lists pages.
Thank you!!
-selena
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United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 03:13 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-03-14 03:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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In keeping with the EU Assocation, I created:
pgus-general
pgus-board
This also keeps the distinction of the official *project* lists as being
prefix'd by pgsql-* ...
- --On Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:17:57 -0700 Selena Deckelmann
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> May we please have the following lists created:
>
> pgsql-us-general (public)
> pgsql-us-board (private)
>
> We'd like them to be linked from the "Regional" sections of the
> Archives and Mailing lists pages.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> -selena
>
> --
> Selena Deckelmann
> United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
> PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
> Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
>
> --
> Sent via pgsql-www mailing list ([email protected])
> To make changes to your subscription:
> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 04:01 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 04:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:13:44 -0300
"Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> In keeping with the EU Assocation, I created:
>
> pgus-general
> pgus-board
>
> This also keeps the distinction of the official *project* lists as
> being prefix'd by pgsql-* ...
>
I am confused. The eu association is pgsql-eu-general (which is why we
asked for pgsql-us-general. Or is this wrong?
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-eu-general/
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 04:09 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-03-14 04:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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- --On Thursday, March 13, 2008 21:01:50 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:13:44 -0300
> "Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>> In keeping with the EU Assocation, I created:
>>
>> pgus-general
>> pgus-board
>>
>> This also keeps the distinction of the official *project* lists as
>> being prefix'd by pgsql-* ...
>>
>
> I am confused. The eu association is pgsql-eu-general (which is why we
> asked for pgsql-us-general. Or is this wrong?
pgeu-board
pgsql-eu-general is a regional group, not the association ... if that isn't the
case, then that needs to be renamed to pgeu-general also ...
- --
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 04:13 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:18 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Devrim GÜNDÜZ <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:47 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 3 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 04:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:09:59 -0300
"Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am confused. The eu association is pgsql-eu-general (which is why
> > we asked for pgsql-us-general. Or is this wrong?
>
> pgeu-board
O.k. so pgus-board makes sense. Cool.
>
> pgsql-eu-general is a regional group, not the association ... if that
> isn't the case, then that needs to be renamed to pgeu-general also ...
My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
association. I could be wrong.. Of course if I am, the eu-general
list has been way off topic for the last couple of months :P Dave,
Magnus, Ads?
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 04:18 ` Devrim GÜNDÜZ <[email protected]>
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From: Devrim GÜNDÜZ @ 2008-03-14 04:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Hi,
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 21:13 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
> association
No, they are different lists. As Marc stated, pgsql-eu-general is a
regional list.
Regards,
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 08:40 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2008-03-14 08:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]> wrote:
> > pgsql-eu-general is a regional group, not the association ... if that
> > isn't the case, then that needs to be renamed to pgeu-general also ...
>
> My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
> association. I could be wrong.. Of course if I am, the eu-general
> list has been way off topic for the last couple of months :P Dave,
> Magnus, Ads?
Yes, pgsql-eu-general is the regional list, as should be
pgsql-us-general. pgeu-board was actually a typo when requested. It
should have been pgsql-eu-board as the regional board for Europe.
So pgsql-us-general and pgsql-us-board seem correct to me.
--
Dave Page
EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com
PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 13:00 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:40:05 +0000
"Dave Page" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, pgsql-eu-general is the regional list, as should be
> pgsql-us-general. pgeu-board was actually a typo when requested. It
> should have been pgsql-eu-board as the regional board for Europe.
>
> So pgsql-us-general and pgsql-us-board seem correct to me.
O.k. that is what I was thinking as well. So marc if you could correct
the list names that would be great. Dave do you want eu board fixed
too? (Just for consistency sake)
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 13:01 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2008-03-14 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]> wrote:
> O.k. that is what I was thinking as well. So marc if you could correct
> the list names that would be great. Dave do you want eu board fixed
> too? (Just for consistency sake)
*I* do, but we should probably ask the PGEU board seeing as it's their list :-p
--
Dave Page
EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com
PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 13:05 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:22 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:01:44 +0000
"Dave Page" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Joshua D. Drake
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > O.k. that is what I was thinking as well. So marc if you could
> > correct the list names that would be great. Dave do you want eu
> > board fixed too? (Just for consistency sake)
>
> *I* do, but we should probably ask the PGEU board seeing as it's
> their list :-p
Doh! good point :) Magnus?
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 13:22 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:23 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2008-03-14 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:05:35AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:01:44 +0000
> "Dave Page" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Joshua D. Drake
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > O.k. that is what I was thinking as well. So marc if you could
> > > correct the list names that would be great. Dave do you want eu
> > > board fixed too? (Just for consistency sake)
> >
> > *I* do, but we should probably ask the PGEU board seeing as it's
> > their list :-p
>
> Doh! good point :) Magnus?
Sure, I can live with changing that. It's only the four of us on it.
Just make sure things don't suddenly appear in the archives when it's done.
//Magnus
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:22 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 13:23 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 14:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:22:18 +0100
Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sure, I can live with changing that. It's only the four of us on it.
>
> Just make sure things don't suddenly appear in the archives when it's
> done.
Of course. I will ping alvaro to add it to the blacklist this morning
(before creation)
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:22 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:23 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 14:04 ` Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 16:14 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2008-03-14 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Joshua D. Drake escribió:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:22:18 +0100
> Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sure, I can live with changing that. It's only the four of us on it.
> >
> > Just make sure things don't suddenly appear in the archives when it's
> > done.
>
> Of course. I will ping alvaro to add it to the blacklist this morning
> (before creation)
Done.
I notice that Marc failed to set pgus-board to private archives,
apparently (though it's empty) ... I blacklisted that one, too.
--
Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/
The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 08:40 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:00 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:22 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 13:23 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 14:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 16:14 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake escribió:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:22:18 +0100
> > Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, I can live with changing that. It's only the four of us on
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Just make sure things don't suddenly appear in the archives when
> > > it's done.
> >
> > Of course. I will ping alvaro to add it to the blacklist this
> > morning (before creation)
>
> Done.
>
> I notice that Marc failed to set pgus-board to private archives,
> apparently (though it's empty) ... I blacklisted that one, too.
That will be switching to pgsql-us-board, so if you could blacklist
that too.
Joshau D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:47 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
> association.
Note that these are actually *three* different entities.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:47 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:52 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:07 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2008-03-14 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
> > association.
>
> Note that these are actually *three* different entities.
No they aren't. pgsql-eu-general was setup following the first real
planning meeting for the PG EU association in Prato, per an agreed
action item. postgresql.eu was donated to the group for use by the
association at the same meeting by Hans form Cybertec.
--
Dave Page
EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com
PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:47 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:07 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:11 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Dave Page wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > My understanding is that pgsql-eu-general == postgresql.eu == the
> > > association.
> >
> > Note that these are actually *three* different entities.
>
> No they aren't. pgsql-eu-general was setup following the first real
> planning meeting for the PG EU association in Prato, per an agreed
> action item. postgresql.eu was donated to the group for use by the
> association at the same meeting by Hans form Cybertec.
Then perhaps this should be clarified. For instance, postgresql.eu shows a
web page that has nothing to do with a user group. And there is no
description of the pgsql-eu-general mailing list that describes that it has
anything to do with the incorporated European user group. Its description on
the archives page, "European PostgreSQL community" would certainly appear to
imply a much wider set of people and interests. Also, if you name a
list -general, then it is general, not specific. Hah! :)
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 03:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:01 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:09 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 04:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:47 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Dave Page <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:07 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:11 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> Then perhaps this should be clarified. For instance, postgresql.eu
> shows a web page that has nothing to do with a user group.
Currently yes. They are in the process of transferring the domain.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:43 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> May we please have the following lists created:
>
> pgsql-us-general (public)
> pgsql-us-board (private)
Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:46 ` Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Selena Deckelmann @ 2008-03-14 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> > May we please have the following lists created:
> >
> > pgsql-us-general (public)
> > pgsql-us-board (private)
>
> Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
We're joining the pgsql-eu group in this same mailing list space.
-selena
--
Selena Deckelmann
United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:52 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:57 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
You wrote:
> > Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
>
> We're joining the pgsql-eu group in this same mailing list space.
Well, first of all, the pgsql-eu-general list is, as just discussed, not
actually related to any "group". And secondly, the European group is just
two weeks old, and we are going to have more groups popping up now, it's the
right time to think about the issue in general.
^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 35+ messages in thread
* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:57 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:52:27 +0100
Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> You wrote:
> > > Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
> >
> > We're joining the pgsql-eu group in this same mailing list space.
>
> Well, first of all, the pgsql-eu-general list is, as just discussed,
> not actually related to any "group".
Not according to Dave or Magnus.
> And secondly, the European
> group is just two weeks old, and we are going to have more groups
> popping up now, it's the right time to think about the issue in
> general.
>
Certainly.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 20:04 ` Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Selena Deckelmann @ 2008-03-14 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> You wrote:
> > > Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
> >
> > We're joining the pgsql-eu group in this same mailing list space.
>
> Well, first of all, the pgsql-eu-general list is, as just discussed, not
> actually related to any "group".
That's not what I read from Dave Page, or from participating in the
pgsql-eu-general list.
> And secondly, the European group is just
> two weeks old, and we are going to have more groups popping up now, it's the
> right time to think about the issue in general.
Yeah, we're going to start having namespace collisions :)
We already discussed the classification, and I thought everyone came
to a consensus in that thread about Regional/User
Group/User/Developer.
See Alvaro and Marc's work on updating Majordomo categories.
-selena
--
Selena Deckelmann
United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:13 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:28 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 35+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You wrote:
> > > > Why are you not using your own domain postgresql.us for this?
> > >
> > > We're joining the pgsql-eu group in this same mailing list space.
> >
> > Well, first of all, the pgsql-eu-general list is, as just discussed, not
> > actually related to any "group".
>
> That's not what I read from Dave Page, or from participating in the
> pgsql-eu-general list.
Well, I could obviously be wrong, because I can't read what was in people's
minds when they set up certain structures, but when someone sets up a
pgsql-foo-general list, then it certainly seems to be a list for anything
related to "foo", rather than a PostgreSQL user group in the "foo" region.
The fact that most of the early discussion about "anything" in the "eu" region
was about forming a user group should not be seen as evidence that the
pgsql-eu-general list is specifically and exclusively for EU user group
affairs now. What would we do if anyone really wanted a list for general EU
things?
> > And secondly, the European group is just
> > two weeks old, and we are going to have more groups popping up now, it's
> > the right time to think about the issue in general.
>
> Yeah, we're going to start having namespace collisions :)
>
> We already discussed the classification, and I thought everyone came
> to a consensus in that thread about Regional/User
> Group/User/Developer.
>
> See Alvaro and Marc's work on updating Majordomo categories.
Well, pgsql-eu-general is still listed as a regional list, which I was under
the impression was its intent, but if it is a user group list now, it should
be moved, and aliased to something more descriptive.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:28 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 22:42 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-15 03:16 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 35+ messages in thread
From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:13:44 +0100
Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> > See Alvaro and Marc's work on updating Majordomo categories.
>
> Well, pgsql-eu-general is still listed as a regional list, which I
> was under the impression was its intent, but if it is a user group
> list now, it should be moved, and aliased to something more
> descriptive.
I don't necessarily disagree with you but I thought I would offer an
observation. Some of this makes some bold assumptions on the part of
the PGEU so if I am incorrect (Magnus?) please correct me :).
I see postgresql-eu-general as the associated public list for PGEU that
anyone is allowed to join and partipate in. For example, I am not a
PGEU member but I can subscribe, offer my ideas and generally
collaborate. PGEU is welcome to take those ideas and implement them or
not. The "business" end of PGEU is going to be handled per
pgsql-eu-board.
I believe that our intention is the same with the pgsql-us-general in
that it is the general United States list. It is where all public
discussion for PGUS will take place but I can't imagine that we would
limit participation or otherwise limit the collaboration capabilities
to only those that are members of PGUS. I hope that those from across
the pond will also join the US list to help increase cooperation
between them.
In this way the -general makes sense. They are not "advocacy" lists.
They are not "hackers" lists. They are regional lists that are general
to the specific region, the fact that they have a regional non profit
associated with them, is just another facet.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:28 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 22:42 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 22:50 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> I believe that our intention is the same with the pgsql-us-general in
> that it is the general United States list.
Well, that is not what Selena said. Her agenda was quite specific.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:28 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 22:42 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 22:50 ` Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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From: Selena Deckelmann @ 2008-03-14 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > I believe that our intention is the same with the pgsql-us-general in
> > that it is the general United States list.
>
> Well, that is not what Selena said. Her agenda was quite specific.
:) I was giving examples of what we might talk about. I was not
creating a definitive list of every topic we would ever allow.
I understand what you're getting at, Peter.
We've started categorizing things a bit better with the groups, but I
don't think that adding -usergroups to the end of the name really
captures what is happening any better than -general does. In fact,
-usergroups is even more misleading, because it will be confused with
the PUGs.
And, at the end, I don't have a better naming convention in mind
either. I have been thinking about it, but everything i've come up
with is no better than what we have.
-selena
--
Selena Deckelmann
United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:52 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 20:04 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:13 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:28 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-15 03:16 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-03-15 03:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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- --On Friday, March 14, 2008 14:28:19 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I see postgresql-eu-general as the associated public list for PGEU that
> anyone is allowed to join and partipate in. For example, I am not a
> PGEU member but I can subscribe, offer my ideas and generally
> collaborate. PGEU is welcome to take those ideas and implement them or
> not. The "business" end of PGEU is going to be handled per
> pgsql-eu-board.
Then the list should have been pgeu-general ... my understand when this was
created was that it was a regional, not user group, list ... similar to our
language lists ...
The pgsql-* name space has, so far, always been community related stuff ...
User Groups fell under *[email protected] ...
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:46 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> pgsql-us-general (public)
Maybe I ask why you need a "general" U.S. list? What is supposed to be
discussed on there?
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 19:49 ` Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:03 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-15 03:17 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Selena Deckelmann @ 2008-03-14 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> > pgsql-us-general (public)
>
> Maybe I ask why you need a "general" U.S. list? What is supposed to be
> discussed on there?
We will use this for the same things that pgsql-eu does:
* Discussion of board meetings, strategy and logistics of USPA
* General non-technical communication related to USPA's activities
* Status reports and updates on events and progress on goals
-selena
--
Selena Deckelmann
United States PostgreSQL Association - http://www.postgresql.us
PDXPUG - http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
Me - http://www.chesnok.com/daily
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:03 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:10 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> > > pgsql-us-general (public)
> >
> > Maybe I ask why you need a "general" U.S. list? What is supposed to be
> > discussed on there?
>
> We will use this for the same things that pgsql-eu does:
>
> * Discussion of board meetings, strategy and logistics of USPA
> * General non-technical communication related to USPA's activities
> * Status reports and updates on events and progress on goals
Well, that is not "general". Name it pgsql-us-usergroup or something then.
The pgsql-eu-general list isn't general either. It's a mistake. Let's be
more precise and accurate in the future.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:03 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:10 ` Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:26 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-15 03:19 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2008-03-14 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:03:35 +0100
Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Well, that is not "general". Name it pgsql-us-usergroup or something
> then. The pgsql-eu-general list isn't general either. It's a
> mistake. Let's be more precise and accurate in the future.
Peter if this was a concern for you, I wish you would have brought it
up sooner... We have:
pgsql-fr-generale
pgsql-ru-general
pgsql-tr-genel
pgsql-eu-general
pgsql-it-generale
and now we are requesting pgsql-us-general.
So either they are all mistakes, or?
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:03 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:10 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-14 21:26 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2008-03-14 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Peter if this was a concern for you, I wish you would have brought it
> up sooner... We have:
>
> pgsql-fr-generale
> pgsql-ru-general
> pgsql-tr-genel
> pgsql-eu-general
> pgsql-it-generale
>
> and now we are requesting pgsql-us-general.
>
> So either they are all mistakes, or?
The language-coded lists are catch-alls for PostgreSQL-related things in that
language. That is presumably because there is not enough traffic to have
more specifically themed lists. Therefore, the naming is appropriate. The
mission of pgsql-eu-general is unclear to me at this point, so I cannot
comment.
The proposed purpose of pgsql-us-general is, however, not a catch-all list for
discussions about PostgreSQL in the USA. I was told that it is specifically
intended for matters of the USPA. A more accurate mailing list title would
be to everyone's benefit, so you don't get useless and off-topic traffic.
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:03 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 21:10 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-15 03:19 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-03-15 03:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www; Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
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- --On Friday, March 14, 2008 14:10:17 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:03:35 +0100
> Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, that is not "general". Name it pgsql-us-usergroup or something
>> then. The pgsql-eu-general list isn't general either. It's a
>> mistake. Let's be more precise and accurate in the future.
>
> Peter if this was a concern for you, I wish you would have brought it
> up sooner... We have:
>
> pgsql-fr-generale
> pgsql-ru-general
> pgsql-tr-genel
> pgsql-eu-general
> pgsql-it-generale
>
> and now we are requesting pgsql-us-general.
>
> So either they are all mistakes, or?
Actually, apparently pgsql-eu-general is a mistake, but the language ones are
exactly "as advertised", general community mailing lists providing a means for
posting language specific requests ... it was my understanding that
pgsql-eu-general was to provide a more regional group for discussions, not as,
as Selena describes it, a general list for discussing PGEU related stuff ...
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* Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association
2008-03-13 17:17 mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:46 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2008-03-14 19:49 ` Re: mailing lists for US PostgreSQL Association Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>
@ 2008-03-15 03:17 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2008-03-15 03:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Selena Deckelmann <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
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- --On Friday, March 14, 2008 12:49:58 -0700 Selena Deckelmann
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Selena Deckelmann wrote:
>> > pgsql-us-general (public)
>>
>> Maybe I ask why you need a "general" U.S. list? What is supposed to be
>> discussed on there?
>
> We will use this for the same things that pgsql-eu does:
>
> * Discussion of board meetings, strategy and logistics of USPA
> * General non-technical communication related to USPA's activities
> * Status reports and updates on events and progress on goals
Okay, then pgsql-eu-general should be renamed to pgeu-general, as it isn't a
community list, its an association list ...
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