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* Re: community social media
@ 2020-09-26 10:11 ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-26 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Mail list readers,
Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
Mmm...
Anyway, please include with greater prominence, the existence of community social media platforms such as Hubzilla, Mastodon, Diaspora.
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 16:04 ` David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: David G. Johnston @ 2020-09-26 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Mail list readers,
>
> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>
Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
Anyway, please include with greater prominence, the existence of community
> social media platforms such as Hubzilla, Mastodon, Diaspora.
>
If you know that these things exist you should provide links to them, and
suggest where you think "prominent" is on our site.
David J.
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 18:05 ` ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:14 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:21 ` Re: community social media Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-26 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Mail list readers,
> >
> > Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>
> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>
See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
"allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
> > Anyway, please include with greater prominence, the existence of community social media platforms such as Hubzilla, Mastodon, Diaspora.
>
> If you know that these things exist you should provide links to them, and suggest where you think "prominent" is on our site.
>
Some examples:
https://fediverse.party/en/portal/servers
https://diasporafoundation.org
https://joinmastodon.org/
Postgresql home web page should have hyperlinks to official postgresql servers for these services.
So, next to the home page which shows:
https://twitter.com/postgresql
There should be:
https://postgresql.org/mastodon
https://postgresql.org/hubzilla
etc.
Of course, each community social media service should describe the postgreqsl configuration.
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 19:17 ` Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:25 ` Re: community social media Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: Adrian Klaver @ 2020-09-26 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mail list readers,
>>>
>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>>
>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>
>
> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
>
> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
Still not sure what the issue is.
--
Adrian Klaver
[email protected]
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 19:25 ` Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:04 ` Re: community social media Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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From: Christophe Pettus @ 2020-09-26 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; +Cc: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]>
> On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:17, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mail list readers,
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>>>
>>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>>
>> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
>> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>
> Still not sure what the issue is.
On this page:
https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/
In the section "Manage email addresses", the text reads in part:
You can also blacklist your own email address from the lists.
"Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term. I think "block" or "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives.
I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropriate list to discuss the change.
--
-- Christophe Pettus
[email protected]
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:25 ` Re: community social media Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:04 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2020-09-27 08:43 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2020-09-26 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>; +Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]>
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM Christophe Pettus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:17, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
> >> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Mail list readers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to
> "blacklist"???
> >>>
> >>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
> >>>
> >> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web
> site account
> >> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
> >
> > Still not sure what the issue is.
>
> On this page:
>
> https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/
>
> In the section "Manage email addresses", the text reads in part:
>
> You can also blacklist your own email address from the lists.
>
> "Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term. I think "block" or
> "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives.
>
> I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropriate
> list to discuss the change.
>
>
There is already work in progress to get this replaced. There are some
backend considerations as well which is why it's not just a search/replace
(and not fixing those would make it inconsistent), but it's been on the
list for a while to get sorted out so it's definitely on people's radar.
--
Magnus Hagander
Me: https://www.hagander.net/ <http://www.hagander.net/;
Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/ <http://www.redpill-linpro.com/;
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:25 ` Re: community social media Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:04 ` Re: community social media Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-27 08:43 ` ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-27 08:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>; Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]>
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:04 PM, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM Christophe Pettus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term. I think "block" or "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives.
> >
> > I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropriate list to discuss the change.
>
> There is already work in progress to get this replaced. There are some backend considerations as well which is why it's not just a search/replace (and not fixing those would make it inconsistent), but it's been on the list for a while to get sorted out so it's definitely on people's radar.
Interesting; suggests the efficiency of achieving as much equity as possible at the first opportunity, to avoid the "replacement" requirement later. A quick look at the mailing lists, "pg-women" existence also indicative of a historical problem. At least acknowledgement to begin action is better than denialism, so this is good to read.
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 19:50 ` ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:06 ` Re: community social media Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:59 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-26 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; +Cc: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mail list readers,
> > > > Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
> > >
> > > Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
> >
> > See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
> > "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>
> Still not sure what the issue is.
>
https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
Ignorance is bliss...
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Adrian Klaver
> [email protected]
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:06 ` Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:11 ` Re: community social media Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2020-09-27 08:25 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: Tomas Vondra @ 2020-09-26 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 07:50:05PM +0000, ourdiaspora wrote:
>
>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>
>> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> > On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora [email protected] wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Mail list readers,
>> > > > Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>> > >
>> > > Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>> >
>> > See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
>> > "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>>
>> Still not sure what the issue is.
>>
>
>https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
>
>Ignorance is bliss...
>
Ummm, are you sure the best way to change things is to go to a mailing
list and insult people who may be genuinely confused about what exactly
you're proposing?
In any case, this list is meant to deal with promoting PostgreSQL
itself, so maybe a better place to discuss this is pgsql-www, which is
where the people maintaining the websites are paying more attention.
regards
--
Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:06 ` Re: community social media Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:11 ` Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Cramer @ 2020-09-26 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>; +Cc: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Sat., Sep. 26, 2020, 4:06 p.m. Tomas Vondra, <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 07:50:05PM +0000, ourdiaspora wrote:
> >
> >‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
> >>
> >> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >> > On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston
> [email protected] wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora
> [email protected] wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Mail list readers,
> >> > > > Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to
> "blacklist"???
> >> > >
> >> > > Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
> >> >
> >> > See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql
> web site account
> >> > "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
> >>
> >> Still not sure what the issue is.
> >>
> >
> >https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
> >
> >Ignorance is bliss...
> >
>
> Ummm, are you sure the best way to change things is to go to a mailing
> list and insult people who may be genuinely confused about what exactly
> you're proposing?
>
Ironic isn't it ?
Dave
>
>
>
>
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:06 ` Re: community social media Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-27 08:25 ` ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-27 08:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>; +Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:06 PM, Tomas Vondra <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 07:50:05PM +0000, ourdiaspora wrote:
>
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Still not sure what the issue is.
> >
> > https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
> > Ignorance is bliss...
>
> Ummm, are you sure the best way to change things is to go to a mailing
> list and insult people who may be genuinely confused about what exactly
> you're proposing?
>
You should be sure that denialism per se is an insult to some
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:59 ` Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 21:48 ` Re: community social media Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>
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From: Adrian Klaver @ 2020-09-26 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
On 9/26/20 12:50 PM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mail list readers,
>>>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>>>>
>>>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>>
>>> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
>>> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>>
>> Still not sure what the issue is.
>>
>
> https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
>
> Ignorance is bliss..
I would say ignorance is taking a word(black) and appropriating it for a
cause, wherever it appears, when said word has more them one meaning.
>
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>> Adrian Klaver
>> [email protected]
>
>
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Adrian Klaver
[email protected]
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:17 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 19:50 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:59 ` Re: community social media Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 21:48 ` Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>
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From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2020-09-26 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
On 9/26/20 4:59 PM, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 9/26/20 12:50 PM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mail list readers,
>>>>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to
>>>>>> "blacklist"???
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>>>
>>>> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql
>>>> web site account
>>>> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>>>
>>> Still not sure what the issue is.
>>>
>>
>> https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
>>
>> Ignorance is bliss..
>
> I would say ignorance is taking a word(black) and appropriating it for a
> cause, wherever it appears, when said word has more them one meaning.
As Magnus said[1] a bit earlier, there's already an in-progress item to
implement language updates on pglister, but it's not a trivial change.
Now that we're passed the PostgreSQL 13 release (which for who track
things with the pgweb ecosystem, *a lot* of changes were added to help
support the release ;) my guess is this will be handled in the
not-too-distant future.
Suffice to say, this is being addressed.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:14 ` David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-27 08:31 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: David G. Johnston @ 2020-09-26 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > > Anyway, please include with greater prominence, the existence of
> community social media platforms such as Hubzilla, Mastodon, Diaspora.
> >
> > If you know that these things exist you should provide links to them,
> and suggest where you think "prominent" is on our site.
> >
>
> Some examples:
>
>
> https://fediverse.party/en/portal/servers
> https://diasporafoundation.org
> https://joinmastodon.org/
>
> Postgresql home web page should have hyperlinks to official postgresql
> servers for these services.
>
> So, next to the home page which shows:
> https://twitter.com/postgresql
>
> There should be:
>
> https://postgresql.org/mastodon
> https://postgresql.org/hubzilla
> etc.
>
> Of course, each community social media service should describe the
> postgreqsl configuration.
>
But I don't believe that there are official PostgreSQL servers for/on these
platforms (and it seems difficult to know whether there are unofficial
ones). We do have Slack and IRC setup and links to those are on the
"Community" page.
David J.
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 20:14 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-27 08:31 ` ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
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From: ourdiaspora @ 2020-09-27 08:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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On Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:14 PM, David G. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> But I don't believe that there are official PostgreSQL servers for/on these platforms (and it seems difficult to know whether there are unofficial ones).
Unofficial servers may be found via tags. Agree that's it's difficult to find within the fediverse (which is why the suggestion is made that official postgresql domains within the fediverse are created).
Example public "tags" that refer to postgresql:
https://mastodon.org.uk/tags/postgresql
https://mastodon.social/tags/postgresql
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* Re: community social media
2020-09-26 10:11 Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 16:04 ` Re: community social media David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
2020-09-26 18:05 ` Re: community social media ourdiaspora <[email protected]>
@ 2020-09-26 20:21 ` Tomas Vondra <[email protected]>
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From: Tomas Vondra @ 2020-09-26 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ourdiaspora <[email protected]>; +Cc: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 06:05:14PM +0000, ourdiaspora wrote:
>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Mail list readers,
>> >
>> > Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to "blacklist"???
>>
>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>
>
>See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql web site account
>
>"allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>
>> > Anyway, please include with greater prominence, the existence of community social media platforms such as Hubzilla, Mastodon, Diaspora.
>>
>> If you know that these things exist you should provide links to them, and suggest where you think "prominent" is on our site.
>>
>
>Some examples:
>
>
>https://fediverse.party/en/portal/servers
>https://diasporafoundation.org
>https://joinmastodon.org/
>
>Postgresql home web page should have hyperlinks to official postgresql servers for these services.
>
I'm not sure there are official (i.e. operated by PGDG) postgresql
servers for these services.
>So, next to the home page which shows:
>https://twitter.com/postgresql
>
>There should be:
>
>https://postgresql.org/mastodon
>https://postgresql.org/hubzilla
>etc.
>
Those links lead nowhere, so it's not clear to me what exactly is your
proposal? Are you suggesting PGDG should start running those services?
I very much doubt PGDG has the resources (esp. manpower) to run and
maintain every possible service of this kind ...
>Of course, each community social media service should describe the
>postgreqsl configuration.
>
Not sure what you mean by this? What postgresql configuration?
regards
--
Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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