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* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-06 09:57 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-01-06 09:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy Hi Umair, Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on the main website? I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for information like that on the main website.). All, what do you think? Valeria On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:33 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]> wrote: > Manoj, the wiki link here - > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual - gives an > overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there > are further questions. > > - Umair > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> HI, >> >> I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that >> to the local community groups under Ireland. >> >> Thx >> >> Manoj >> >> On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Awesome! >> >> What do you need from us ? >> >> Dave Cramer >> >> [email protected] >> www.postgresintl.com >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wish to create a local user group for Ireland. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Manoj >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-06 13:12 Dave Cramer <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Dave Cramer @ 2020-01-06 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Umair, > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on the > main website? > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it here: > https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least provide a > link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would liek to keep > using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, think we shouldn't > since only those who are already involved in the community would be aware > of wiki, others will most probably look for information like that on the > main website.). > > All, > what do you think? > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have some vague notion of how to search for it. +1 for the main page Dave > > Valeria > > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:33 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Manoj, the wiki link here - >> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual - gives an >> overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there >> are further questions. >> >> - Umair >> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> HI, >>> >>> I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that >>> to the local community groups under Ireland. >>> >>> Thx >>> >>> Manoj >>> >>> On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Awesome! >>> >>> What do you need from us ? >>> >>> Dave Cramer >>> >>> [email protected] >>> www.postgresintl.com >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I wish to create a local user group for Ireland. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Manoj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-06 16:59 Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> parent: Dave Cramer <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2020-01-06 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy Hi, On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Umair, > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on > the main website? > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for > information like that on the main website.). > > All, > what do you think? > > > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have > some vague notion of how to search for it. > > +1 for the main page I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to modify a Wiki page than the website. Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. Thanks, Jonathan ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-06 18:58 Schmidt, Vinicius <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Schmidt, Vinicius @ 2020-01-06 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Hi Manoj, I came to know that you are interested in create a user group here in Ireland. I think we could unite efforts as I was thinking the same for over the past year, and I know more people that might be very interested. Please feel free to reach me out directly so we can discuss the details on how we will organize it our first meeting. Kind regards, Vinícius From: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> Date: Monday 6 January 2020 at 09:57 To: Umair Shahid <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>, "Jonathan S. Katz" <[email protected]>, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>, Dave Cramer <[email protected]>, Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>, Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>, Renee Phillips <[email protected]>, Jan Karremans <[email protected]>, Chris Travers <[email protected]>, Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>, "Teresa.Giacomini" <[email protected]>, Ervin Weber <[email protected]>, Joe Conway <[email protected]>, Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>, Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>, Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>, Claire Giordano <[email protected]>, Stephen Frost <[email protected]>, Catherine Souque <[email protected]>, Steven Pousty <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Local User Groups Hi Umair, Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on the main website? I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for information like that on the main website.). All, what do you think? Valeria On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:33 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Manoj, the wiki link here - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual - gives an overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there are further questions. - Umair On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: HI, I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that to the local community groups under Ireland. Thx Manoj On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Awesome! What do you need from us ? Dave Cramer [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.postgresintl.com<http://www.postgresintl.com/; On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, I wish to create a local user group for Ireland. Sincerely, Manoj Amazon Data Services Ireland Limited registered office: One Burlington Plaza, Burlington Road, Dublin 4, Ireland. Registered in Ireland. Registration number 390566. ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-06 19:13 manoj kumar MR <[email protected]> parent: Schmidt, Vinicius <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: manoj kumar MR @ 2020-01-06 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Schmidt, Vinicius <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Hi, Yes I was planning to create one. If you could take this up this would be a great thing. Sincerely, Manoj > On 6 Jan 2020, at 18:58, Schmidt, Vinicius <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Manoj, > > I came to know that you are interested in create a user group here in Ireland. > I think we could unite efforts as I was thinking the same for over the past year, and I know more people that might be very interested. > > Please feel free to reach me out directly so we can discuss the details on how we will organize it our first meeting. > > Kind regards, > Vinícius > > > > From: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: Monday 6 January 2020 at 09:57 > To: Umair Shahid <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Jonathan S. Katz" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Magnus Hagander <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Dave Cramer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Paul Ramsey <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Renee Phillips <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Jan Karremans <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Chris Travers <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Laetitia Avrot <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Teresa.Giacomini" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Ervin Weber <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Joe Conway <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Stacey Haysler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Claire Giordano <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Stephen Frost <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Catherine Souque <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Steven Pousty <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: Local User Groups > > Hi Umair, > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on the main website? > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ <https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/; or at least provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for information like that on the main website.). > > All, > what do you think? > > Valeria > > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:33 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Manoj, the wiki link here - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual; - gives an overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there are further questions. > > - Umair > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > HI, > > I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that to the local community groups under Ireland. > > Thx > > Manoj > > > On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Awesome! > > What do you need from us ? > > Dave Cramer > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > www.postgresintl.com <http://www.postgresintl.com/; > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi, > > I wish to create a local user group for Ireland. > > Sincerely, > > Manoj > > > > > > Amazon Data Services Ireland Limited registered office: One Burlington Plaza, Burlington Road, Dublin 4, Ireland. Registered in Ireland. Registration number 390566. > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 06:54 Umair Shahid <[email protected]> parent: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Umair Shahid @ 2020-01-07 06:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Umair, > > > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on > > the main website? > > > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it > > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least > > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would > > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, > > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the > > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for > > information like that on the main website.). > > > > All, > > what do you think? > > > > > > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only > > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have > > some vague notion of how to search for it. > > > > +1 for the main page > > I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for > changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do > something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. > > That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for > how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have > some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to > modify a Wiki page than the website. > > Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We > can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" > page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. > I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would do the trick. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 11:29 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> parent: Umair Shahid <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-01-07 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy Sounds good, Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how. <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual; " to this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ Quick question, Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? thanks, Valeria On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Umair, >> > >> > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. >> > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on >> > the main website? >> > >> > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it >> > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least >> > provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we >> would >> > like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, >> > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the >> > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for >> > information like that on the main website.). >> > >> > All, >> > what do you think? >> > >> > >> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only >> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have >> > some vague notion of how to search for it. >> > >> > +1 for the main page >> >> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for >> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do >> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. >> >> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for >> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have >> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to >> modify a Wiki page than the website. >> >> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We >> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" >> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. >> > > I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's > how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would > do the trick. > > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 11:34 Dave Cramer <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Dave Cramer @ 2020-01-07 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds good, > > Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how. > <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual; " to this > page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ > > Quick question, > Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access > to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? > > thanks, > Valeria > > Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this Dave Cramer > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Umair, >>> > >>> > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. >>> > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on >>> > the main website? >>> > >>> > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it >>> > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at >>> least >>> > provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we >>> would >>> > like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, >>> > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the >>> > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look >>> for >>> > information like that on the main website.). >>> > >>> > All, >>> > what do you think? >>> > >>> > >>> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only >>> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have >>> > some vague notion of how to search for it. >>> > >>> > +1 for the main page >>> >>> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for >>> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do >>> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. >>> >>> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for >>> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have >>> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to >>> modify a Wiki page than the website. >>> >>> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We >>> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" >>> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. >>> >> >> I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's >> how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would >> do the trick. >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 11:47 Joe Conway <[email protected]> parent: Dave Cramer <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Joe Conway @ 2020-01-07 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy On 1/7/20 6:34 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Sounds good, > > Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how. > <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual; " to > this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ > > Quick question, > Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have > access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? > > thanks, > Valeria > > Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to > specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this Which account name? It does not appear that the one associated with Valeria's email address has ever logged in to the wiki. Joe -- Crunchy Data - http://crunchydata.com PostgreSQL Support for Secure Enterprises Consulting, Training, & Open Source Development ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 12:33 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> parent: Joe Conway <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-01-07 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joe Conway <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy Thank you, Joe, It's: valeriak [email protected] On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:47 AM Joe Conway <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1/7/20 6:34 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Sounds good, > > > > Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how. > > <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual; " to > > this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ > > > > Quick question, > > Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have > > access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? > > > > thanks, > > Valeria > > > > Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to > > specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this > > > Which account name? It does not appear that the one associated with > Valeria's email address has ever logged in to the wiki. > > Joe > > -- > Crunchy Data - http://crunchydata.com > PostgreSQL Support for Secure Enterprises > Consulting, Training, & Open Source Development > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups @ 2020-01-07 12:38 Joe Conway <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Joe Conway @ 2020-01-07 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy On 1/7/20 7:33 AM, Valeria Kaplan wrote: > Thank you, Joe, Thanks -- all set, you are now an editor :-) Joe -- Crunchy Data - http://crunchydata.com PostgreSQL Support for Secure Enterprises Consulting, Training, & Open Source Development ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-01-30 15:04 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> parent: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-01-30 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; Umair Shahid <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; Paul Ramsey <[email protected]>; Kerem Kızıltunç <[email protected]>; Renee Phillips <[email protected]>; Jan Karremans <[email protected]>; Chris Travers <[email protected]>; Laetitia Avrot <[email protected]>; Teresa.Giacomini <[email protected]>; Ervin Weber <[email protected]>; Joe Conway <[email protected]>; Stacey Haysler <[email protected]>; Katherine Mcmillan <[email protected]>; Sebastiaan Mannem <[email protected]>; Claire Giordano <[email protected]>; Stephen Frost <[email protected]>; Catherine Souque <[email protected]>; Steven Pousty <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy; Ilya Kosmodemiansky <[email protected]> Hi Jonathan, All, To take our discussion on this thread further, I went through the content on the wiki page and rewrote it a bit. https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual I made five sections, keeping in mind what I'd see going on the postgres.org website PUG page <https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/;: 1. Small blurb at the top (see under *creating a new user group*) 2. *Starting your PUG* (guides you through the process of creating all needed resources and announcing the group to the community) 3. *Holding your first meetup* (talks about different organisational aspects of a meetup, how to get funding, and where to announce) 4. *Holding more meetings *(a general guidance on holding meetup series) 5. *Useful links *(this needs more links, examples of active user group pages, checklists, articles about choosing topics for PUG meetings and how to run them. *If anyone has good examples for it, could you please ad the link to the wiki * https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links *or send it to this thread and I'll add*.) I left Notes and Brain Dump, they do have some useful nuggets of information, but I think it'd be too much for the website. *It definitely needs a proof, so if anyone can help with that it would be great.* Once on the website, I have a few ideas that could bring this section of the website to live a bit more (an animation to explain the process and maybe series of video interviews with those who have experience organising PUG meetings)... "You may say I`m a dreamer; but I`m not the only one." :) Cheers, Valeria On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Umair, > > > > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. > > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on > > the main website? > > > > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it > > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least > > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would > > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, > > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the > > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for > > information like that on the main website.). > > > > All, > > what do you think? > > > > > > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only > > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have > > some vague notion of how to search for it. > > > > +1 for the main page > > I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for > changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do > something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. > > That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for > how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have > some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to > modify a Wiki page than the website. > > Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We > can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" > page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-03-03 10:24 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-03-03 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pgsql-advocacy; [email protected]; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> Hi All, I think my email (below) fell between the cracks, but we still need to address the issue of not having any information about setting up and running meetups on postgres.org, so if there are no comments about the updated wiki page text <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual>(see my email below) I'd suggest that myself and Johnathan (if you have time, Johnathan) finalise it and add it to the website to keep the ball rolling. Thanks, Valeria On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:04 PM Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, All, > > To take our discussion on this thread further, I went through the content > on the wiki page and rewrote it a bit. > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual > > I made five sections, keeping in mind what I'd see going on the > postgres.org website PUG page > <https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/;: > > 1. Small blurb at the top (see under *creating a new user group*) > 2. *Starting your PUG* (guides you through the process of creating all > needed resources and announcing the group to the community) > 3. *Holding your first meetup* (talks about different organisational > aspects of a meetup, how to get funding, and where to announce) > 4. *Holding more meetings *(a general guidance on holding meetup series) > 5. *Useful links *(this needs more links, examples of active user group > pages, checklists, articles about choosing topics for PUG meetings and how > to run them. *If anyone has good examples for it, could you please ad the > link to the wiki * > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links *or send > it to this thread and I'll add*.) > > I left Notes and Brain Dump, they do have some useful nuggets of > information, but I think it'd be too much for the website. > > *It definitely needs a proof, so if anyone can help with that it would be > great.* > > Once on the website, I have a few ideas that could bring this section of > the website to live a bit more (an animation to explain the process and > maybe series of video interviews with those who have experience organising > PUG meetings)... "You may say I`m a dreamer; but I`m not the only one." :) > > Cheers, > Valeria > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Umair, >> > >> > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page. >> > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on >> > the main website? >> > >> > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it >> > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least >> > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would >> > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, >> > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the >> > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for >> > information like that on the main website.). >> > >> > All, >> > what do you think? >> > >> > >> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only >> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have >> > some vague notion of how to search for it. >> > >> > +1 for the main page >> >> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for >> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do >> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015. >> >> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for >> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have >> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to >> modify a Wiki page than the website. >> >> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We >> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual" >> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jonathan >> > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-03-11 00:06 Justin Clift <[email protected]> parent: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Justin Clift @ 2020-03-11 00:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-advocacy; [email protected]; Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> Seems like a worthwhile attempt, worthy of trying out and seeing how it goes if nothing else. :) + Justin On 2020-03-03 21:24, Valeria Kaplan wrote: > Hi All, > > I think my email (below) fell between the cracks, but we still need to > address the issue of not having any information about setting up and > running meetups on postgres.org, so if there are no comments about the > updated > wiki page text > <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual>(see > my email below) I'd suggest that myself and Johnathan (if you have > time, > Johnathan) finalise it and add it to the website to keep the ball > rolling. > > Thanks, > Valeria ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-03-11 02:32 Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> parent: Justin Clift <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2020-03-11 02:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-advocacy; [email protected] On 3/10/20 8:06 PM, Justin Clift wrote: > Seems like a worthwhile attempt, worthy of trying out and seeing how it > goes > if nothing else. :) > > + Justin > > > On 2020-03-03 21:24, Valeria Kaplan wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I think my email (below) fell between the cracks, but we still need to >> address the issue of not having any information about setting up and >> running meetups on postgres.org, so if there are no comments about the >> updated >> wiki page text >> <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual>(see >> my email below) I'd suggest that myself and Johnathan (if you have time, >> Johnathan) finalise it and add it to the website to keep the ball >> rolling. Sorry, missed this during travel and forgot to circle back. Certainly +1 to moving it forward. I have a few content tweaks queued up to do, next week likely better to push a bunch of changes through to the website. I skimmed through the notes -- they look way more organized. I think it will be a very helpful resource! Jonathan Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] signature.asc (833B, ../../[email protected]/2-signature.asc) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-03-11 11:44 Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> parent: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Valeria Kaplan @ 2020-03-11 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; +Cc: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy; [email protected] Cool, thank you Johnathan! Let me know if I can be of any help for completing this (even if just circling back with you next week :) ) On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:32 AM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry, missed this during travel and forgot to circle back. > > Certainly +1 to moving it forward. I have a few content tweaks queued up > to do, next week likely better to push a bunch of changes through to the > website. > > I skimmed through the notes -- they look way more organized. I think it > will be a very helpful resource! > > Jonathan > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Local User Groups - advocacy @ 2020-03-11 13:33 Dave Cramer <[email protected]> parent: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Dave Cramer @ 2020-03-11 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; +Cc: Justin Clift <[email protected]>; Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]>; pgsql-advocacy; [email protected] Dave Cramer www.postgres.rocks On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 22:33, Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3/10/20 8:06 PM, Justin Clift wrote: > > Seems like a worthwhile attempt, worthy of trying out and seeing how it > > goes > > if nothing else. :) > > > > + Justin > > > > > > On 2020-03-03 21:24, Valeria Kaplan wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I think my email (below) fell between the cracks, but we still need to > >> address the issue of not having any information about setting up and > >> running meetups on postgres.org, so if there are no comments about the > >> updated > >> wiki page text > >> <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual>(see > >> my email below) I'd suggest that myself and Johnathan (if you have time, > >> Johnathan) finalise it and add it to the website to keep the ball > >> rolling. > > Sorry, missed this during travel and forgot to circle back. > > Certainly +1 to moving it forward. I have a few content tweaks queued up > to do, next week likely better to push a bunch of changes through to the > website. > > I skimmed through the notes -- they look way more organized. I think it > will be a very helpful resource! > > Jonathan > > Valeria, Great work! Thanks for doing this. I read through it and have some possible edits. 1. - Email the list [email protected] announcing that you would like to create a user group in your area and note if need funds setting up your meeting.com account. Possibly change this to "if you need funds... " Please consider your local specifics and popular platforms in your geography . change to "in your area" it is successful if the focus is on its audience and the narrower your focus is the better your meetup will run and the stronger community you will create It took me a bit to grok the sentence above. Does this work ? To be successful, focus on the audience. The narrower your focus, the better your meetup will run; resulting in a stronger community Regards, Dave ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 17+ messages in thread
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