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From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:40:53 -0400
Message-ID: <20190617184053.GI2480@tamriel.snowman.net> (raw)
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Greetings,

* Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote:
> On 2019-06-17 14:34:58 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote:
> > > On 2019-06-14 23:14:09 +0100, Andrew Gierth wrote:
> > > > So here is my current proposed fix.
> > > 
> > > Before pushing a commit that's controversial - and this clearly seems to
> > > somewhat be - it'd be good to give others a heads up that you intend to
> > > do so, so they can object. Rather than just pushing less than 24h later,
> > > without a warning.
> > 
> > Seems like that would have meant a potentially very late commit to avoid
> > having a broken (for some value of broken anyway) point release (either
> > with new code, or with reverting the timezone changes previously
> > committed), which isn't great either.
> 
> > In general, I agree with you, and we should try to give everyone time to
> > discuss when something is controversial, but this seems like it was at
> > least a bit of a tough call.
> 
> Hm? All I'm saying is that Andrew's email should have included something
> to the effect of "Due to the upcoming release, I'm intending to push and
> backpatch the attached fix in ~20h".

Ah, ok, I agree that would have been good to do.  Of course, hindsight
being 20/20 and all that.  Something to keep in mind for the future
though.

Thanks,

Stephen

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