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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: pgsql-committers@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: pgsql: doc:  remove verbiage about "receiving" data from rep. slots
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 09:49:02 -0500
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 09:25:20AM -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2025-11-14 09:12:33 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 09:05:07AM -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On 2025-11-14 09:02:12 -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> > > > On 2025-11-14 13:56:06 +0000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > > doc:  remove verbiage about "receiving" data from rep. slots
> > > > > 
> > > > > The slots are just LSN markers, not something to receive from.
> > > > 
> > > > I think this is wrong. Logical slots also preserve resources other than WAL.
> > > 
> > > I also think that the complaint about slots not being something to receive
> > > from is simply wrong for logical slots.
> > 
> > Uh, can you clarify since I can't find details on what they preserve.
> 
> Slots (physical ones can, logical ones always do), prevent row cleanup on the
> primary.

I see your point.  How is the attached patch?  The link right after the
modified text talks only about WAL retention, so I think we need
something in this sentence to say we do more than WAL retention for
logical replication slots.

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slot.diff (text/x-diff, 814B) download diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/logical-replication.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/logical-replication.sgml index 8a9674bd6d1..aa013f348d4 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/logical-replication.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/logical-replication.sgml @@ -225,8 +225,9 @@ </para> <para> - By default a new subscription creates a logical replication slot on the - publisher and then uses this slot to preserve necessary WAL (see <xref + By default a new subscription creates a logical replication slot on + the publisher and then uses this slot to track relevant transaction + activity and preserve necessary WAL (see <xref linkend="streaming-replication-slots"/>). Additional replication slots may be required for the initial data synchronization of pre-existing table data and those will be dropped at the end of data

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