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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 15:07:33 -0400
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 2:42 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> I don't think we need to go on about it at great length, but it seems
>> to me that it'd be reasonable to point out that (a) you'd be well
>> advised not to touch the file while the postmaster is up, and (b)
>> last setting wins.  Those things are equally true of postgresql.conf
>> of course, but I don't recall whether they're already documented.

> OK, fair enough.

Concretely, how about the attached?

(Digging around in config.sgml, I found that last-one-wins is stated,
but only in the context of one include file overriding another.
That's not *directly* a statement about what happens within a single
file, and it's in a different subsection anyway, so repeating the
info in 19.1.2 doesn't seem unreasonable.)

			regards, tom lane

Attachments:

doc-handling-of-config-file-dup-entries.patch (text/x-diff, 2.4K) download diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml index cdc30fa..f5986b2 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml @@ -153,6 +153,8 @@ shared_buffers = 128MB identifiers or numbers must be single-quoted. To embed a single quote in a parameter value, write either two quotes (preferred) or backslash-quote. + If the file contains multiple entries for the same parameter, + all but the last one are ignored. </para> <para> @@ -185,18 +187,27 @@ shared_buffers = 128MB In addition to <filename>postgresql.conf</filename>, a <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> data directory contains a file <filename>postgresql.auto.conf</filename><indexterm><primary>postgresql.auto.conf</primary></indexterm>, - which has the same format as <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> but should - never be edited manually. This file holds settings provided through - the <xref linkend="sql-altersystem"/> command. This file is automatically - read whenever <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> is, and its settings take - effect in the same way. Settings in <filename>postgresql.auto.conf</filename> - override those in <filename>postgresql.conf</filename>. + which has the same format as <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> but + is intended to be edited automatically not manually. This file holds + settings provided through the <xref linkend="sql-altersystem"/> command. + This file is read whenever <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> is, + and its settings take effect in the same way. Settings + in <filename>postgresql.auto.conf</filename> override those + in <filename>postgresql.conf</filename>. + </para> + + <para> + External tools might also + modify <filename>postgresql.auto.conf</filename>, typically by appending + new settings to the end. It is not recommended to do this while the + server is running, since a concurrent <command>ALTER SYSTEM</command> + command could overwrite such changes. </para> <para> The system view <link linkend="view-pg-file-settings"><structname>pg_file_settings</structname></link> - can be helpful for pre-testing changes to the configuration file, or for + can be helpful for pre-testing changes to the configuration files, or for diagnosing problems if a <systemitem>SIGHUP</systemitem> signal did not have the desired effects. </para>

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