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From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: pg_dump --with-* options
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:05:02 -0500
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 09:53:01AM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-06-18 at 10:43 -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>> IIUC the current proposal is to:
>> 
>> * Dump/restore stats by default.
> 
> IIUC some people still object to this. Turning stats off by default was
> on the Open Items list. At this point I think we need a pretty strong
> consensus to override that and I'm not sure we have one right now.

Okay, so I see two main choices on the table:

1) Turn on stats by default in pg_dump.  Keep --no-* flags and --*-only
flags, and remove the --with-* flags.

2) Keep stats off by default in pg_dump.  Keep --no-{schema,data} flags and
--*-only flags, remove --no-statistics and --with-{schema,data}, and rename
--with-statistics to --statistics.

Is that an accurate summary?

-- 
nathan





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