From: Anastasios Hatzis <ah@hatzis.de>
To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: On managerial choosing (was: Postgres VS Oracle)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:57:58 +0200
Message-ID: <200706201958.03510.ah@hatzis.de> (raw)
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On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 11:22:17AM -0400, Chris Browne wrote:
> > In cases where you *do not* spend the BPOM, there is not any
> > particular evidence available to indicate that Oracle is, in any
> > interesting way, more reliable than PostgreSQL.
>
> I hate to say this, but as true as the above is, it has very close to
> zero relevance to the way most senior managers make decisions.
[...]
I also hate to say this, but I fully agree with whatever you wrote in this
mail.
[...]
> much money you have to spend, and how risky it would be to tie that
> up in Oracle licenses. In some cases, that turns out to be too risky,
> and Postgres becomes a viable choice. It's only exceptionally
> visionary senior managers who operate in other ways.
Yes, maybe 10 out of 100. Likely less.
[...]
> addicted to the excellent features of PostgreSQL, though. The second
> is that marketing to management by using arguments, listing lots of
> technical detail and features, and the like, will never work.
> They'll ignore such cluttered and crowded brochures, because they
> don't deal in technical detail. We have to make PostgreSQL a
> low-risk choice for them.
I wonder if this is something which really is a job of the core team or
community (I think of the 'traditional' PG users who are more technically
focussed and maybe not enthusiastic about too much CIO/CTO flavored
communication). Actually this kind of communication looks to me like to be
perfectly done by commercial PG vendors?
Anastasios
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