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To: Pavel Stehule <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: proposal: schema variables
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 16:41:38 -0400
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On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 07:15:27AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> út 20. 5. 2025 v 23:07 odesílatel Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> napsal:
> > If no committer intends to pick it up and commit it, I think the proper
> > action would be to step up and reject the patch set, not complain about
> the
> > insistence of the author.
>
> Are you saying I should not complain until we have officially rejected
> the patch set? If we officially reject it, the patch author would no
> longer post it?
>
> I'll respect committers. I really don't want to worry people in the community.
> It is not my way, and I am sorry.
I realize I am being the bad guy by asking these questions, but I don't
think it is good for the project to get distracted with a feature that
isn't progressing, and it is unpleasant for an author to keep working on
something with no clear direction from the community. I am happy to
learn that progress is being made.
I see this feature being first proposed in 2012:
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/CAFj8pRDdk_4E8HiffbVOfk97iR%2BSLFoZpRT4D2nTE89YU-hQrg%40m...
and the first question was:
I don't really see what we can do with this that we can't do
without this.
Now, I think we have answered that question, and gotten closer to seeing
the complexities of adding this feature.
I am asking that, given its age, we more clearly direct this patch,
either toward completion or rejection.
> I think this is an important feature - for some group of developers, and then I
> push my energy and time for this.
> On the other hand, I accept that there is a lot of work that is important for a
> wider group of users. So it is. Unfortunately,
> without parser's hooks this feature cannot be implemented as an extension. But
> parser's hooks was proposed,
> and rejected, so there is no other possibility, how to do it. More -
> implementation of this feature as an extension is not
> best way.
I will reply to this in my next email.
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Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> https://momjian.us
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