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* No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-13 05:50 Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Amit Khandekar @ 2020-03-13 05:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected] <[email protected]> --0000000000003855c205a0b60cd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I don't find any packages on ARM archictecture (e.g. aarch64) in any of the repositories. E.g. I checked here : https://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/pool/10/p/postgresql-10/ . But I could find such packages in the Ubuntu repository : https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/arm64/postgresql-10/download I am also able to install PostgreSQL on an Ubuntu on aarch64 using apt-get, bring up the server, and do sanity. I wonder then why we don't provide these packages. We also have a buildfarm periodic build on aarch64: https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=eelpout&br=HEAD The page https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ says : "The PGDG packages are built from the same source as the Debian packages (Ubuntu is using the same source for the PostgreSQL server packages as well). We try to follow Debian unstable's versions as close as possible" ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-13 09:05 Christoph Berg <[email protected]> parent: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Christoph Berg @ 2020-03-13 09:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-13 <CAJ3gD9ezKiUgcZDjbUa4svn3A+M_r6QvgOVmarA2aoDR9i+iLA@mail.gmail.com> > The page https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ says : > "The PGDG packages are built from the same source as the Debian packages > (Ubuntu is using the same source for the PostgreSQL server packages as > well). We try to follow Debian unstable's versions as close as possible" > > From the above, I expected that because Ubuntu provides a PostgreSQL > installable, PostgreSQL also should provide the same through > apt.postgresql.org ? Am I missing something ? "Same source" doesn't imply that the same set of architectures is covered. We are also missing more than a dozen others that Debian is covering: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=postgresql-12 > I believe due to the absence of these packages in PostgreSQL repositories, > there is no mention of aarch(64) in the PostgreSQl downloads website : > https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ Are you able to provide a build host for arm64? Specs would be something like >= 8 cores, 8 GB of RAM, 100 GB disk, root access. Christoph ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-16 04:38 Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> parent: Christoph Berg <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Amit Khandekar @ 2020-03-16 04:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christoph Berg <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 14:35, Christoph Berg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-13 <CAJ3gD9ezKiUgcZDjbUa4svn3A+M_r6QvgOVmarA2aoDR9i+iLA@mail.gmail.com> > > The page https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ says : > > "The PGDG packages are built from the same source as the Debian packages > > (Ubuntu is using the same source for the PostgreSQL server packages as > > well). We try to follow Debian unstable's versions as close as possible" > > > > From the above, I expected that because Ubuntu provides a PostgreSQL > > installable, PostgreSQL also should provide the same through > > apt.postgresql.org ? Am I missing something ? > > "Same source" doesn't imply that the same set of architectures is > covered. Hmm, right. The thing I was actually wondering was, *why* the same architectures are not covered by PGDG. > We are also missing more than a dozen others that Debian is > covering: > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=postgresql-12 > > > I believe due to the absence of these packages in PostgreSQL repositories, > > there is no mention of aarch(64) in the PostgreSQl downloads website : > > https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ > > Are you able to provide a build host for arm64? Specs would be > something like >= 8 cores, 8 GB of RAM, 100 GB disk, root access. As of now, I am not sure, but if required I will at least try to see if that can be arranged. So, when we see that there are N number of OS/architecture combinations for which PGDG does not provide packages, is it so because we don't have dedicated machines satisfying the minumum requirements like RAM/core/disk ? In other words, is it only a matter of providing such machine and adding it up in the buildfarm members where it passes the regression tests, or there are are some more requirements over and above the machine resource requirements after which PGDG can officially support those OS/architecture combinations ? Thanks -Amit Khandekar Huawei Technologies ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-16 04:44 Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> parent: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Amit Khandekar @ 2020-03-16 04:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christoph Berg <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 10:08, Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 14:35, Christoph Berg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-13 <CAJ3gD9ezKiUgcZDjbUa4svn3A+M_r6QvgOVmarA2aoDR9i+iLA@mail.gmail.com> > > > The page https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ says : > > > "The PGDG packages are built from the same source as the Debian packages > > > (Ubuntu is using the same source for the PostgreSQL server packages as > > > well). We try to follow Debian unstable's versions as close as possible" > > > > > > From the above, I expected that because Ubuntu provides a PostgreSQL > > > installable, PostgreSQL also should provide the same through > > > apt.postgresql.org ? Am I missing something ? > > > > "Same source" doesn't imply that the same set of architectures is > > covered. > > Hmm, right. The thing I was actually wondering was, *why* the same > architectures are not covered by PGDG. > > > We are also missing more than a dozen others that Debian is > > covering: > > > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=postgresql-12 > > > > > I believe due to the absence of these packages in PostgreSQL repositories, > > > there is no mention of aarch(64) in the PostgreSQl downloads website : > > > https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ > > > > Are you able to provide a build host for arm64? Specs would be > > something like >= 8 cores, 8 GB of RAM, 100 GB disk, root access. > > As of now, I am not sure, but if required I will at least try to see > if that can be arranged. > > So, when we see that there are N number of OS/architecture > combinations for which PGDG does not provide packages, is it so > because we don't have dedicated machines satisfying the minumum > requirements like RAM/core/disk ? In other words, is it only a matter > of providing such machine and adding it up in the buildfarm members > where it passes the regression tests, or there are are some more > requirements over and above the machine resource requirements after > which PGDG can officially support those OS/architecture combinations ? I see that there is already an aarch64 buildfarm member which is passing the tests regularly : https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=eelpout&br=HEAD Thanks, -Amit Khandekar Huawei Technologies ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-16 12:41 Christoph Berg <[email protected]> parent: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Christoph Berg @ 2020-03-16 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-16 <CAJ3gD9e2Q9MQxa3DTbS8Jo9D_3GTKrWHyzQvqRuypHBX-=uUkA@mail.gmail.com> > So, when we see that there are N number of OS/architecture > combinations for which PGDG does not provide packages, is it so > because we don't have dedicated machines satisfying the minumum > requirements like RAM/core/disk ? In other words, is it only a matter > of providing such machine and adding it up in the buildfarm members > where it passes the regression tests, or there are are some more > requirements over and above the machine resource requirements after > which PGDG can officially support those OS/architecture combinations ? The buildfarm machines have nothing to do with the build daemons behind apt.postgresql.org or yum.postgresql.org; they are entirely different infrastructure. I guess asking the buildfarm operators if they can spare machines as build daemons might work, but I haven't had the time to dig into that. If you care about a specific architecture, it would be nice if you could arrange that. Christoph ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-17 12:15 Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> parent: Christoph Berg <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Amit Khandekar @ 2020-03-17 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christoph Berg <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 18:11, Christoph Berg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-16 <CAJ3gD9e2Q9MQxa3DTbS8Jo9D_3GTKrWHyzQvqRuypHBX-=uUkA@mail.gmail.com> > > So, when we see that there are N number of OS/architecture > > combinations for which PGDG does not provide packages, is it so > > because we don't have dedicated machines satisfying the minumum > > requirements like RAM/core/disk ? In other words, is it only a matter > > of providing such machine and adding it up in the buildfarm members > > where it passes the regression tests, or there are are some more > > requirements over and above the machine resource requirements after > > which PGDG can officially support those OS/architecture combinations ? > > The buildfarm machines have nothing to do with the build daemons > behind apt.postgresql.org or yum.postgresql.org; they are entirely > different infrastructure. Ok. > > I guess asking the buildfarm operators if they can spare machines as > build daemons might work, but I haven't had the time to dig into that. > If you care about a specific architecture, it would be nice if you > could arrange that. I just checked; it is possible for me to arrange for an aarch64 VM with the configuration you mentioned : > Are you able to provide a build host for arm64? Specs would be > something like >= 8 cores, 8 GB of RAM, 100 GB disk, root access. ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: No PGDG package for ARM architecture @ 2020-03-17 16:43 Christoph Berg <[email protected]> parent: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Christoph Berg @ 2020-03-17 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Amit Khandekar <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Re: Amit Khandekar 2020-03-17 <CAJ3gD9e0-0NX+MziXKhmF4-nFQRadUhcZ0UaATiuagJSBCxhjQ@mail.gmail.com> > with the configuration you mentioned : > > Are you able to provide a build host for arm64? Specs would be > > something like >= 8 cores, 8 GB of RAM, 100 GB disk, root access. Cool! Christoph ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 7+ messages in thread
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