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* Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
@ 2023-10-09 12:46 Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
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From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2023-10-09 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]
I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds group
policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains Core Team
membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
--
Daniel Gustafsson
Attachments:
[application/octet-stream] fundsgroup.diff (939B, 2-fundsgroup.diff)
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diff --git a/templates/pages/about/policies/funds-group.html b/templates/pages/about/policies/funds-group.html
index 1b60f1c1..005b4162 100644
--- a/templates/pages/about/policies/funds-group.html
+++ b/templates/pages/about/policies/funds-group.html
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
{%block contents%}
<h1>PostgreSQL Funds Group <i class="far fa-money-bill-alt"></i></h1>
-<p><em>Last updated: March 1, 2019. {%git_changes_link%}</em></p>
+<p><em>Last updated: October 10, 2023. {%git_changes_link%}</em></p>
<h2 id="charter">Charter</h2>
@@ -14,16 +14,6 @@
project and Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
</p>
-<h3>Core Team Membership</h3>
-
-<p>
- The <a href="/developer/core/">Core Team</a> of the PostgreSQL project
- consists of the people currently listed on the
- <a href="/community/contributors/">contributors page</a>.
-</p>
-
-<p>The Core Team appoints its own members.</p>
-
<h3>Fundraising Group Membership</h3>
<p>
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 12:48 ` Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Cramer @ 2023-10-09 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds group
> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains Core
> Team
> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
>
> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
>
+1 from me
Dave
>
> --
> Daniel Gustafsson
>
>
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:25 ` Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:29 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
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From: Jonathan Katz @ 2023-10-09 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; +Cc: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; [email protected]
On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds
>> group
>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains
>> Core
>> Team
>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
>>
>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
>>
>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
>>
>
> +1 from me
-1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
modify it.
Jonathan
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:29 ` Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:31 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:35 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2023-10-09 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>; +Cc: Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> On 9 Oct 2023, at 15:25, Jonathan Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds group
>>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains Core
>>> Team
>>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
>>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
>>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
>> +1 from me
>
> -1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
> modify it.
Fair enough, but should it really be there or is it something which should be
changed at some point? Right now it implies that the Funds group reports to
the Core Team, or that the Core Team has influence on the Funds group, which
AFAIK isn't correct.
--
Daniel Gustafsson
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:29 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:31 ` Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Cramer @ 2023-10-09 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Dave Cramer
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 09:29, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 9 Oct 2023, at 15:25, Jonathan Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds
> group
> >>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains
> Core
> >>> Team
> >>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
> >>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
> >>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
> >> +1 from me
> >
> > -1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
> > modify it.
>
> Fair enough, but should it really be there or is it something which should
> be
> changed at some point? Right now it implies that the Funds group reports
> to
> the Core Team, or that the Core Team has influence on the Funds group,
> which
> AFAIK isn't correct.
>
> Why is the Core Team membership mentioned there ?
Dave
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:29 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:35 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:37 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2023-10-09 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; [email protected]
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 14:29, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 9 Oct 2023, at 15:25, Jonathan Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds
> group
> >>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains
> Core
> >>> Team
> >>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
> >>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
> >>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
> >> +1 from me
> >
> > -1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
> > modify it.
>
> Fair enough, but should it really be there or is it something which should
> be
> changed at some point? Right now it implies that the Funds group reports
> to
> the Core Team, or that the Core Team has influence on the Funds group,
> which
> AFAIK isn't correct.
>
Yes, it is. The core team has the power of veto over the Liaison and Deputy
Liaison.
This page is the charter which describes the relationship between the
project and the funds group, so it makes sense (because others within SPI
don't know our project) to have all the key details in one place.
--
Dave Page
pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:29 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:35 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Page <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:37 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:41 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Magnus Hagander @ 2023-10-09 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; [email protected]
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 3:35 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 14:29, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On 9 Oct 2023, at 15:25, Jonathan Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the funds group
>> >>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page explains Core
>> >>> Team
>> >>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
>> >>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
>> >>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
>> >> +1 from me
>> >
>> > -1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
>> > modify it.
>>
>> Fair enough, but should it really be there or is it something which should be
>> changed at some point? Right now it implies that the Funds group reports to
>> the Core Team, or that the Core Team has influence on the Funds group, which
>> AFAIK isn't correct.
>
>
> Yes, it is. The core team has the power of veto over the Liaison and Deputy Liaison.
>
> This page is the charter which describes the relationship between the project and the funds group, so it makes sense (because others within SPI don't know our project) to have all the key details in one place.
Perhaps it should not actually be listed under "general policies"
then, and instead have a separate heading for charters? I think it's
the only such page we have, right?
//Magnus
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* Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy?
2023-10-09 12:46 Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 12:48 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Cramer <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:25 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:29 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:35 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Dave Page <[email protected]>
2023-10-09 13:37 ` Re: Accidental inclusion of core team on funds policy? Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2023-10-09 13:41 ` Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2023-10-09 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; Jonathan Katz <[email protected]>; Dave Cramer <[email protected]>; [email protected]
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 14:37, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 3:35 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 14:29, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 9 Oct 2023, at 15:25, Jonathan Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On 2023-10-09 08:48, Dave Cramer wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:46, Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>> I happened to notice what seems like a copy/paste error in the
> funds group
> >> >>> policy document on the website. The first para on the page
> explains Core
> >> >>> Team
> >> >>> membership which seems incorrect as they are separate entities.
> >> >>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/funds-group/
> >> >>> Shouldn't we do something like the attached?
> >> >> +1 from me
> >> >
> >> > -1. This is part of the charter that was sent to SPI. Please do not
> >> > modify it.
> >>
> >> Fair enough, but should it really be there or is it something which
> should be
> >> changed at some point? Right now it implies that the Funds group
> reports to
> >> the Core Team, or that the Core Team has influence on the Funds group,
> which
> >> AFAIK isn't correct.
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is. The core team has the power of veto over the Liaison and
> Deputy Liaison.
> >
> > This page is the charter which describes the relationship between the
> project and the funds group, so it makes sense (because others within SPI
> don't know our project) to have all the key details in one place.
>
> Perhaps it should not actually be listed under "general policies"
> then, and instead have a separate heading for charters? I think it's
> the only such page we have, right?
>
At the moment, I believe it is. We should probably add something similar
for PGCA though.
--
Dave Page
pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
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