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extract(field from timestamp) vs date dimension
  2007-01-23 12:49 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: extract(field from timestamp) vs date dimension
  2007-01-23 13:24 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: extract(field from timestamp) vs date dimension
  2007-01-23 13:35 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: extract(field from timestamp) vs date dimension
  2007-01-23 16:05 UTC  Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
` Re: extract(field from timestamp) vs date dimension
  2007-01-24 03:20 UTC  Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
  [5+ messages in thread]

Table Inheritence and Partioning
  2007-01-17 10:42 UTC  ramachandra.bhaskaram@wipro.com
` Re: Table Inheritence and Partioning
  2007-01-17 11:01 UTC  Albert Cervera Areny <albert@sedifa.com>
` Re: Table Inheritence and Partioning
  2007-01-22 09:40 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
  [3+ messages in thread]

Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 20:31 UTC  Brian Hurt <bhurt@janestcapital.com>
` Re: Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 20:39 UTC  Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
` Re: [PERFORM] Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 21:04 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 21:42 UTC  Chris Mair <chris@1006.org>
` Re: [PERFORM] Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 21:52 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 22:41 UTC  Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com>
` Re: Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-18 23:09 UTC  Gavin Sherry <swm@alcove.com.au>
` Re: [PERFORM] Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-19 10:03 UTC  Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
` Re: [PERFORM] Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-19 14:11 UTC  Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
` Re: Postgres and really huge tables
  2007-01-20 00:04 UTC  Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  [10+ messages in thread]

DB benchmark and pg config file help
  2007-01-17 22:15 UTC  Kevin Hunter <hunteke@earlham.edu>
` Re: DB benchmark and pg config file help
  2007-01-19 13:45 UTC  Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
` Re: DB benchmark and pg config file help
  2007-01-19 14:05 UTC  Kevin Hunter <hunteke@earlham.edu>
` Re: DB benchmark and pg config file help
  2007-01-19 16:52 UTC  Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>
` Re: DB benchmark and pg config file help
  2007-01-19 21:40 UTC  Kevin Hunter <hunteke@earlham.edu>
  [5+ messages in thread]

Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 20:41 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:24 UTC  Adam Rich <adam.r@sbcglobal.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:29 UTC  Bricklen Anderson <banderson@presinet.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:32 UTC  Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:33 UTC  Benjamin Minshall <minshall@intellicon.biz>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:34 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:37 UTC  Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:56 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 21:58 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 22:12 UTC  Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 22:14 UTC  Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:08 UTC  Chris Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:13 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:33 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:37 UTC  Adam Rich <adam.r@sbcglobal.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:43 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:55 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-17 23:58 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 00:01 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 00:27 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 00:32 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 00:50 UTC  Steve <cheetah@tanabi.org>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 10:24 UTC  Arjen van der Meijden <acmmailing@tweakers.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 15:38 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 16:20 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 16:42 UTC  Arjen van der Meijden <acmmailing@tweakers.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 17:28 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 21:10 UTC  Arjen van der Meijden <acmmailing@tweakers.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-18 22:11 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-19 06:15 UTC  Arjen van der Meijden <acmmailing@tweakers.net>
` Re: Configuration Advice
  2007-01-19 19:16 UTC  Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
  [31+ messages in thread]

Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 18:37 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 19:20 UTC  Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
` Re: Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 20:21 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 20:40 UTC  Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
` Re: Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 21:30 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: Autoanalyze settings with zero scale factor
  2007-01-18 21:53 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
  [6+ messages in thread]

Vacuum v/s Autovacuum
  2007-01-18 13:24 UTC  Gauri Kanekar <meetgaurikanekar@gmail.com>
` Re: Vacuum v/s Autovacuum
  2007-01-18 13:31 UTC  Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
` Re: Vacuum v/s Autovacuum
  2007-01-18 13:46 UTC  Gauri Kanekar <meetgaurikanekar@gmail.com>
` Re: Vacuum v/s Autovacuum
  2007-01-18 14:05 UTC  Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
` Re: Vacuum v/s Autovacuum
  2007-01-18 14:14 UTC  Shoaib Mir <shoaibmir@gmail.com>
  [5+ messages in thread]

Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-17 16:58 UTC  Ziegelwanger, Silvio <Silvio.Ziegelwanger@fabasoft.com>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-17 17:57 UTC  Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-17 18:03 UTC  Shoaib Mir <shoaibmir@gmail.com>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-17 18:29 UTC  Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-17 22:38 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-18 09:55 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
` Re: Monitoring Transaction Log size
  2007-01-18 10:19 UTC  Shoaib Mir <shoaibmir@gmail.com>
  [7+ messages in thread]

Version Change
  2007-01-18 04:43 UTC  Gauri Kanekar <meetgaurikanekar@gmail.com>
` Re: Version Change
  2007-01-18 04:56 UTC  Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
` Re: Version Change
  2007-01-18 04:59 UTC  Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
` Re: Version Change
  2007-01-18 05:35 UTC  Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
  [4+ messages in thread]

PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-16 21:23 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-16 21:39 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-16 22:20 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-16 22:44 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 02:58 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 04:52 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 05:46 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 14:37 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 14:53 UTC  Shoaib Mir <shoaibmir@gmail.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 15:09 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 15:14 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 15:23 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 16:19 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 16:28 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 17:26 UTC  Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@gmail.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 18:35 UTC  Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 18:46 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 18:55 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 19:14 UTC  Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 19:32 UTC  Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
` Re: PG8.2.1 choosing slow seqscan over idx scan
  2007-01-17 19:38 UTC  Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
  [21+ messages in thread]

unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 17:20 UTC  Kim <kim@myemma.com>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 18:07 UTC  Russell Smith <mr-russ@pws.com.au>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 18:17 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 18:20 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 19:13 UTC  Kim <kim@myemma.com>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 19:45 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 19:49 UTC  Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 20:40 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 21:11 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 21:16 UTC  Jim C. Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 21:52 UTC  Kim <kim@myemma.com>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 22:26 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 23:10 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: unusual performance for vac following 8.2 upgrade
  2007-01-11 23:12 UTC  Kim <kim@myemma.com>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-11 23:14 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-12 01:09 UTC  Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-12 02:51 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-12 09:06 UTC  Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
` Re: [PERFORM] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-12 12:43 UTC  Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
` Re: [PERFORM] unusual performance for vac following 8.2upgrade
  2007-01-12 17:33 UTC  Jim C. Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
` Re: [HACKERS] unusual performance for vac following 8.2
  2007-01-17 16:55 UTC  Kim <kim@myemma.com>
  [21+ messages in thread]

Raid 10 or Raid 5 on Dell PowerEdge
  2007-01-17 15:57 UTC  Dave Dutcher <dave@tridecap.com>

Table Size
  2007-01-16 13:48 UTC  Gauri Kanekar <meetgaurikanekar@gmail.com>
` Re: Table Size
  2007-01-16 19:24 UTC  Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
` Re: Table Size
  2007-01-17 06:37 UTC  Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume@lelarge.info>
  [3+ messages in thread]

Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 08:43 UTC  ramachandra.bhaskaram@wipro.com
` Re: Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 09:33 UTC  Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
` Re: Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 09:43 UTC  ramachandra.bhaskaram@wipro.com
` Re: Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 10:13 UTC  Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
` Re: Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 10:29 UTC  David Levy <dvid.levy@gmail.com>
` Re: Caching in PostgreSQL
  2007-01-16 16:10 UTC  Chris Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
  [6+ messages in thread]

FiberChannel cards for FreeBSD on AMD64
  2007-01-15 17:55 UTC  Andrew Hammond <andrew.george.hammond@gmail.com>

Re: max() versus order/limit (WAS: High update
  2007-01-15 07:42 UTC  Luke Lonergan <LLonergan@greenplum.com>
` Re: max() versus order/limit (WAS: High update
  2007-01-15 10:38 UTC  Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
` Re: max() versus order/limit (WAS: High update
  2007-01-15 15:51 UTC  Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  [3+ messages in thread]

Re: max() versus order/limit  (WAS: High update activity, PostgreSQL vs BigDBMS)
  2007-01-15 04:52 UTC  Adam Rich <adam.r@sbcglobal.net>
` Re: max() versus order/limit  (WAS: High update activity, PostgreSQL vs BigDBMS)
  2007-01-15 10:35 UTC  Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
  [2+ messages in thread]

Problem with grouping, uses Sort and GroupAggregate, HashAggregate is better(?)
  2007-01-14 12:43 UTC  Rolf Østvik (HA/EXA) <rolf.ostvik@ericsson.com>
` Re: Problem with grouping, uses Sort and GroupAggregate, HashAggregate is better(?)
  2007-01-14 15:34 UTC  Rolf Østvik (HA/EXA) <rolf.ostvik@ericsson.com>
` Re: Problem with grouping, uses Sort and GroupAggregate, HashAggregate is better(?)
  2007-01-14 16:12 UTC  Dave Dutcher <dave@tridecap.com>
` Re: Problem with grouping, uses Sort and GroupAggregate, HashAggregate is better(?)
  2007-01-14 16:52 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
` Re: Problem with grouping, uses Sort and GroupAggregate, HashAggregate is better(?)
  2007-01-15 08:58 UTC  Rolf Østvik (HA/EXA) <rolf.ostvik@ericsson.com>
  [5+ messages in thread]

Large table performance
  2007-01-13 00:31 UTC  Mark Dobbrow <mdobbrow@yahoo.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-13 00:40 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-13 01:33 UTC  Steinar H. Gunderson <sgunderson@bigfoot.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-13 15:55 UTC  Daniel Cristian Cruz <danielcristian@gmail.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-14 02:40 UTC  Dave Dutcher <dave@tridecap.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-14 11:47 UTC  Shoaib Mir <shoaibmir@gmail.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-14 19:02 UTC  Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com>
` Re: Large table performance
  2007-01-14 19:20 UTC  Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com>
  [8+ messages in thread]

(no subject)
  2007-01-14 12:31 UTC  Rolf Østvik (HA/EXA) <rolf.ostvik@ericsson.com>
` Re:
  2007-01-14 13:46 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
  [2+ messages in thread]

Performance of Parser?
  2007-01-13 23:38 UTC  Jignesh Shah <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
` Re: Performance of Parser?
  2007-01-14 00:24 UTC  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
` Re: Performance of Parser?
  2007-01-14 00:48 UTC  Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
` Re: Performance of Parser?
  2007-01-14 03:08 UTC  Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
  [4+ messages in thread]

Physical separation of  tables and indexes - where pg_xlog should go?
  2007-01-13 09:21 UTC  Ireneusz Pluta <ipluta@wp.pl>

table partioning performance
  2007-01-07 04:37 UTC  Colin Taylor <colin.taylor@gmail.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-08 15:39 UTC  Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-08 20:02 UTC  Steven Flatt <steven.flatt@gmail.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-09 00:35 UTC  Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-09 12:48 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-10 20:24 UTC  Jim C. Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-10 21:00 UTC  Steven Flatt <steven.flatt@gmail.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-10 21:39 UTC  Steven Flatt <steven.flatt@gmail.com>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-11 01:23 UTC  Jim C. Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
` Re: table partioning performance
  2007-01-11 12:15 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
` Re: [HACKERS] table partioning performance
  2007-01-11 21:01 UTC  Jim C. Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
` Re: [HACKERS] table partioning performance
  2007-01-12 19:50 UTC  Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
  [12+ messages in thread]

RES: Improving SQL performance
  2007-01-11 21:14 UTC  Carlos H. Reimer <carlos.reimer@opendb.com.br>
` Re: RES: Improving SQL performance
  2007-01-11 23:47 UTC  Cesar Suga <sartre@gmail.com>
` RES: Improving SQL performance
  2007-01-12 17:37 UTC  Carlos H. Reimer <carlos.reimer@opendb.com.br>
  [3+ messages in thread]

Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 08:16 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 08:56 UTC  Peter Childs <peterachilds@gmail.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 09:05 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 09:17 UTC  Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 09:56 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 10:41 UTC  Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 10:44 UTC  Tobias Brox <tobias@nordicbet.com>
` Re: Planner statistics, correlations
  2007-01-12 10:55 UTC  Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
  [8+ messages in thread]


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